Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500DEF64990 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:36:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: from fep15.mx.upcmail.net ([62.179.121.35]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Stjxk-0000T0-RS for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:36:06 +0000 Received: from edge04.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.239]) by viefep15-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.05 201-2260-151-110-20120111) with ESMTP id <20120724183551.QOMN18555.viefep15-int.chello.at@edge04.upcmail.net>; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:35:51 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([89.134.225.226]) by edge04.upcmail.net with edge id eJbq1j02Z4tiMtV04JbqC2; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:35:51 +0200 X-SourceIP: 89.134.225.226 Message-ID: <500EEB05.6030005@shopzeus.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:35:49 +0200 From: Laszlo Nagy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Torsten Zuehlsdorff , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: ZFS vs. UFS References: <500E9A3B.3070609@shopzeus.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Archive-Number: 201207/309 X-Sequence-Number: 47490 > On 24.07.2012 14:51, Laszlo Nagy wrote: > >> * UFS is not journaled. > > There is journal support for UFS as far as i know. Please have a look > at the gjournal manpage. Yes, but gjournal works for disk devices. I would have rely on the hw card for RAID. When the card goes wrong I won't be able to access my data. I could also buy an identical RAID card. In fact I could buy a complete backup server. But right now I don't have the money for that. So I would like to use a solution that allows me to recover from a failure even if the RAID card goes wrong. It might also be possible to combine gmirror + gjournal, but that is not good enough. Performance and stability of a simple gmirror with two disks is much worse then a raidz array with 10 disks (and hot spare), or even a raid 1+0 (and hot spare) that is supported by the hw RAID card. So I would like to stick with UFS+hw card support (and then I need to buy an identical RAID card if I can), or ZFS.