Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([87.238.57.229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THLJs-0006Yd-89 for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:08:28 +0000 Received: from server13-scl.nuevasync.com ([64.13.138.208] helo=mail.nuevasync.com) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THLJq-0004gS-Ae for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:08:27 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (26.sub-70-196-196.myvzw.com [70.196.196.26]) by mail.nuevasync.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771C5458006 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:08:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5064C033.90506@boreham.org> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:08:03 -0600 From: David Boreham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: hardware advice References: <5064A4DC.5090304@turnkey.bz> <5064ABA1.7030507@boreham.org> <5064BB66.2080202@optionshouse.com> In-Reply-To: <5064BB66.2080202@optionshouse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Archive-Number: 201209/172 X-Sequence-Number: 47918 On 9/27/2012 2:47 PM, Shaun Thomas wrote: > On 09/27/2012 02:40 PM, David Boreham wrote: > >> I think the newer CPU is the clear winner with a specintrate >> performance of 589 vs 432. > > The comparisons you linked to had 24 absolute threads pitted against > 32, since the newer CPUs have a higher maximum cores per CPU. That > said, you're right that it has a fairly large cache. And from my > experience, Intel CPU generations have been scaling incredibly well > lately. (Opteron, we hardly knew ye!) Yes, the "rate" spec test uses all the available cores. I'm assuming a concurrent workload, but since the single-thread performance isn't that much different between the two I think the higher number of cores, larger cache, newer design CPU is the best choice. > > We went from Dunnington to Nehalem, and it was stunning how much > better the X5675 was compared to the E7450. Sandy Bridge isn't quite > that much of a jump though, so if you don't need that kind of > bleeding-edge, you might be able to save some cash. This is especially > true since the E5-2600 series has the same TDP profile and both use > 32nm lithography. We use Opteron on a price/performance basis. Intel always seems to come up with some way to make their low-cost processors useless (such as limiting the amount of memory they can address).