Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([98.129.198.125]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THeRt-0001z2-RH for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:34:01 +0000 Received: from dime159.dizinc.com ([66.7.216.77]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THeRs-0008Rd-It for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:34:01 +0000 Received: from [200.32.230.36] (port=34562 helo=[192.168.100.79]) by dime159.dizinc.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1THeRr-00011Z-Ab for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:33:59 -0400 Message-ID: <5065DF86.2030909@turnkey.bz> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:33:58 -0600 From: "M. D." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: hardware advice References: <5064A4DC.5090304@turnkey.bz> <5064AD5C.4010403@boreham.org> <5064AF52.3070706@turnkey.bz> <5064B34D.2000105@boreham.org> <5065C8DC.5020305@boreham.org> In-Reply-To: <5065C8DC.5020305@boreham.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dime159.dizinc.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - postgresql.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - turnkey.bz X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Pg-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Archive-Number: 201209/199 X-Sequence-Number: 47945 On 09/28/2012 09:57 AM, David Boreham wrote: > On 9/28/2012 9:46 AM, Craig James wrote: >> Your best warranty would be to have the confidence to do your own >> repairs, and to have the parts on hand. I'd seriously consider >> putting your own system together. Maybe go to a few sites with >> pre-configured machines and see what parts they use. Order those, >> screw the thing together yourself, and put a spare of each critical >> part on your shelf. >> > This is what I did for years, but after taking my old parts collection > to the landfill a few times, realized I may as well just buy N+1 > machines and keep zero spares on the shelf. That way I get a spare > machine available for use immediately, and I know the parts are > working (parts on the shelf may be defective). If something breaks, I > use the spare machine until the replacement parts arrive. > > Note in addition that a warranty can be extremely useful in certain > organizations as a vehicle of blame avoidance (this may be its primary > purpose in fact). If I buy a bunch of machines that turn out to have > buggy NICs, well that's my fault and I can kick myself since I own the > company, stay up late into the night reading kernel code, and buy new > NICs. If I have an evil Dilbertian boss, then well...I'd be seriously > thinking about buying Dell boxes in order to blame Dell rather than > myself, and be able to say "everything is warrantied" if badness goes > down. Just saying... > I'm kinda in the latter shoes. Dell is the only thing that is trusted in my organisation. If I would build my own, I would be fully blamed for anything going wrong in the next 3 years. Thanks everyone for your input. Now my final choice will be if my budget allows for the latest and fastest, else I'm going for the x5690. I don't have hundreds of users, so I think the x5690 should do a pretty good job handling the load.