Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UFz1M-00045y-Su for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:40:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UFz1M-000105-8g for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:40:00 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UFz1L-000100-H9 for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:39:59 +0000 Received: from server13-scl.nuevasync.com ([64.13.138.208] helo=mail.nuevasync.com) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UFz1I-00054T-Ed for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:39:59 +0000 Received: from [192.168.65.159] (unknown [69.51.127.178]) by mail.nuevasync.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CD64594A4 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 21:39:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <51414687.3010201@boreham.org> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 21:39:51 -0600 From: David Boreham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: New server setup References: <4D6D1410-2208-4DAA-BD64-69BE1FD94E55@autouncle.com> <513CADB7.4030803@2ndQuadrant.com> <51409C51.1070601@kickstone.com> <38D48FB0-92A8-433B-8D34-4C63738B45BA@gmail.com> <5140A623.20005@kickstone.com> <5140D226.4060609@pinpointresearch.com> <5140DE90.5010009@boreham.org> <51414409.6090505@catalyst.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <51414409.6090505@catalyst.net.nz> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020709070007030104040703" X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-performance Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020709070007030104040703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 3/13/2013 9:29 PM, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > Just going through this now with a vendor. They initially assured us > that the drives had "end to end protection" so we did not need to > worry. I had to post stripdown pictures from Intel's s3700, showing > obvious capacitors attached to the board before I was taken seriously > and actually meaningful specifications were revealed. So now I'm > demanding to know: > > - chipset (and version) > - original manufacturer (for re-badged ones) > - power off protection *explicitly* mentioned > - show me the circuit board (and where are the capacitors) In addition to the above, I only use drives where I've seen compelling evidence that plug pull tests have been done and passed (e.g. done by someone on this list or in-house here). I also like to have a high level of confidence in the firmware development group. This results in a very small set of acceptable products :( --------------020709070007030104040703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 3/13/2013 9:29 PM, Mark Kirkwood wrote:
Just going through this now with a vendor. They initially assured us that the drives had "end to end protection" so we did not need to worry. I had to post stripdown pictures from Intel's s3700, showing obvious capacitors attached to the board before I was taken seriously and actually meaningful specifications were revealed. So now I'm demanding to know:

- chipset (and version)
- original manufacturer (for re-badged ones)
- power off protection *explicitly* mentioned
- show me the circuit board (and where are the capacitors)

In addition to the above, I only use drives where I've seen compelling evidence that plug pull tests have been done and passed (e.g. done by someone on this list or in-house here).  I also like to have a high level of confidence in the firmware development group. This results in a very small set of acceptable products :(



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