Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UfLW8-0001bh-0E for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 23 May 2013 02:44:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UfLW7-0006ez-CI for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 23 May 2013 02:44:35 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UfLW6-0006eu-Kg for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Thu, 23 May 2013 02:44:34 +0000 Received: from [2404:130:0:10::40:2] (helo=mail.catalyst.net.nz) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UfLVx-0004co-I2 for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Thu, 23 May 2013 02:44:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.catalyst.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51210323E6; Thu, 23 May 2013 14:44:21 +1200 (NZST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at catalyst.net.nz Received: from mail.catalyst.net.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bertrand.catalyst.net.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1FB-MzGjsMR0; Thu, 23 May 2013 14:44:18 +1200 (NZST) Received: from [IPv6:2404:130:0:1000:222:4dff:fe88:a586] (unknown [IPv6:2404:130:0:1000:222:4dff:fe88:a586]) (Authenticated sender: mark.kirkwood) by mail.catalyst.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CDB6132E95; Thu, 23 May 2013 14:44:18 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <519D8282.8000600@catalyst.net.nz> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 14:44:18 +1200 From: Mark Kirkwood User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130510 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Smith CC: "Joshua D. Drake" , Merlin Moncure , sthomas@optionshouse.com, Tomas Vondra , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication References: <51957499.6050905@fuzzy.cz> <519991EB.8010208@2ndQuadrant.com> <519A8E29.60702@fuzzy.cz> <519C0EFD.9080002@2ndQuadrant.com> <519CF8CC.1030204@optionshouse.com> <519D0921.9080807@2ndQuadrant.com> <519D174A.4050703@commandprompt.com> <519D1CD6.2080607@2ndQuadrant.com> <519D2562.2060604@2ndQuadrant.com> <519D49DC.7060406@commandprompt.com> <519D6A84.7050707@commandprompt.com> <519D71AD.4080606@catalyst.net.nz> <519D7930.2040308@catalyst.net.nz> <519D7D60.1060804@2ndQuadrant.com> <519D7E54.4000806@catalyst.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <519D7E54.4000806@catalyst.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2404:130:0:10::40:2 (failed) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-performance Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org On 23/05/13 14:26, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > On 23/05/13 14:22, Greg Smith wrote: >> On 5/22/13 10:04 PM, Mark Kirkwood wrote: >>> Make that quite a few capacitors (top right corner): >>> http://regmedia.co.uk/2013/05/07/m500_4.jpg >> >> There are some more shots and descriptions of the internals in the >> excellent review at >> http://techreport.com/review/24666/crucial-m500-ssd-reviewed >> >> That also highlights the big problem with this drive that's kept me >> from buying one so far: >> >> "Unlike rivals Intel and Samsung, Crucial doesn't provide utility >> software with a built-in health indicator. The M500's payload of >> SMART attributes doesn't contain any references to flash wear or >> bytes written, either. Several of the SMART attributes are labeled >> "Vendor-specific," but you'll need to guess what they track and read >> the associated values using third-party software." >> >> That's a serious problem for most business use of this sort of drive. >> > > Agreed - I was thinking the same thing! > > Having said that, there does seem to be a wear leveling counter in its SMART attributes - but, yes - I'd like to see indicators more similar the level of detail that Intel provides. Cheers Mark -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance