Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WennY-0006KP-Pz for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:48:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WennY-0005tu-AF for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:48:52 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([98.129.198.125]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WennX-0005tn-05 for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:48:51 +0000 Received: from wsip-70-169-168-7.pn.at.cox.net ([70.169.168.7] helo=fs.denninger.net) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WenmS-00066e-OL for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:47:46 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fs.denninger.net (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s3SFlhnH006351 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 10:47:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (TLS/SSL) [192.168.1.40] by Spamblock-sys (LOCAL/AUTH); Mon Apr 28 10:47:43 2014 Message-ID: <535E781A.5030708@denninger.net> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 10:47:38 -0500 From: Karl Denninger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Revisiting disk layout on ZFS systems Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020803070405060708050503" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140428-0, 04/28/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Pg-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-performance Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020803070405060708050503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been doing a bit of benchmarking and real-world performance=20 testing, and have found some curious results. The load in question is a fairly-busy machine hosting a web service that = uses Postgresql as its back end. "Conventional Wisdom" is that you want to run an 8k record size to match = Postgresql's inherent write size for the database. However, operational experience says this may no longer be the case now=20 that modern ZFS systems support LZ4 compression, because modern CPUs can = compress fast enough that they overrun raw I/O capacity. This in turn=20 means that the recordsize is no longer the record size, basically, and=20 Postgresql's on-disk file format is rather compressible -- indeed, in=20 actual performance on my dataset it appears to be roughly 1.24x which is = nothing to sneeze at. The odd thing is that I am getting better performance with a 128k record = size on this application than I get with an 8k one! Not only is the=20 system faster to respond subjectively and can it sustain a higher TPS=20 load objectively but the I/O busy percentage as measured during=20 operation is MARKEDLY lower (by nearly an order of magnitude!) This is not expected behavior! What I am curious about, however, is the xlog -- that appears to suffer=20 pretty badly from 128k record size, although it compresses even=20 more-materially; 1.94x (!) The files in the xlog directory are large (16MB each) and thus "first=20 blush" would be that having a larger record size for that storage area=20 would help. It appears that instead it hurts. 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