Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YBxF7-0001uU-Tu for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 03:06:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YBxF7-0005U6-Eg for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 03:06:37 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YBxF6-0005U0-Jq for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 03:06:36 +0000 Received: from mail.catalyst.net.nz ([2404:130:0:10::40:0]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YBxF2-0002bi-AF for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 03:06:34 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.catalyst.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4547731C2B; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:06:29 +1300 (NZDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at catalyst.net.nz Received: from mail.catalyst.net.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bertrand.catalyst.net.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OZEhhTDVYShf; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:06:28 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [IPv6:2404:130:0:1000:9107:c07f:1300:5b09] (unknown [IPv6:2404:130:0:1000:9107:c07f:1300:5b09]) (Authenticated sender: mark.kirkwood) by mail.catalyst.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C8BA31C75; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:06:28 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <54B88032.7020206@catalyst.net.nz> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:06:26 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Berkus , postgres performance list Subject: Re: Strange choice of general index over partial index References: <54B83F70.7080004@agliodbs.com> <54B85D32.7090106@catalyst.net.nz> <54B87820.3090101@catalyst.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <54B87820.3090101@catalyst.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-performance Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org On 16/01/15 15:32, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > On 16/01/15 13:37, Mark Kirkwood wrote: >> On 16/01/15 11:30, Josh Berkus wrote: >>> This is an obfuscation and mock up, but: >>> >>> table files ( >>> id serial pk, >>> filename text not null, >>> state varchar(20) not null >>> ... 18 more columns >>> ) >>> >>> index file_state on (state) >>> (35GB in size) >>> index file_in_flight_state (state) where state in ( >>> 'waiting','assigning', 'processing' ) >>> (600MB in size) >>> ... 10 more indexes >>> >>> More important facts: >>> * state = 'done' 95% of the time. thereform the partial index >>> represents only 5% of the table >>> * all indexes and the table are very bloated >>> * server has 128GB RAM >>> * Version 9.2. >>> >>> Given this setup, I would expect the planner to *always* choose >>> file_in_flight_state over file_state for this query: >>> >>> SELECT id, filename FROM files WHERE state = 'waiting'; >>> >>> ... and yet it keeps selecting file_state based on extremely small >>> changes to the stats. This is important because the same query, using >>> file_state, is 20X to 50X slower, because that index frequently gets >>> pushed out of memory. >>> >>> What am I missing? Or is this potentially a planner bug for costing? >>> >> >> Are you seeing a bitmapscan access plan? If so see if disabling it gets >> you a plan on the files_in_flight index. I'm seeing this scenario with a >> fake/generated dataset a bit like yours in 9.2 (9.5 uses the >> files_in_flight w/o any coercing). >> > > FWIW: For me 9.2 and 9.3 (default config) generate plans like: > state=# EXPLAIN ANALYZE > SELECT id, filename > FROM files > WHERE state = 'processing'; > QUERY PLAN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bitmap Heap Scan on files (cost=3102.02..89228.68 rows=164333 > width=15) (actual time=26.629..803.507 rows=166696 loops=1) > Recheck Cond: ((state)::text = 'processing'::text) > Rows Removed by Index Recheck: 7714304 > -> Bitmap Index Scan on file_state (cost=0.00..3060.93 rows=164333 > width=0) (actual time=25.682..25.682 rows=166696 loops=1) > Index Cond: ((state)::text = 'processing'::text) > Total runtime: 808.662 ms > (6 rows) > > > whereas 9.4 and 9.5 get: > > QUERY PLAN > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Index Scan using file_in_flight on files (cost=0.42..62857.39 > rows=158330 width=15) (actual time=0.055..202.732 rows=166696 loops=1) > Index Cond: ((state)::text = 'processing'::text) > Planning time: 24.203 ms > Execution time: 208.926 ms > (4 rows) > > > This is with each version loading exactly the same dataset (generated by > the attached scripty). Obviously this is a vast simplification of what > Josh is looking at - but it is (hopefully) interesting that these later > versions are doing so much better... > A bit more poking about shows that the major factor (which this fake dataset anyway) is the default for effective_cache_size (changes from 128MB to 4GB in 9.4). Increasing this makes 9.2 start using the files_in_flight index in a plain index scan too. Josh - might be worth experimenting with this parameter. regards Mark -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance