X-Original-To: pgsql-performance-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D921AD7EB3; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 03:02:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 53122-03; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 06:02:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us (sss.pgh.pa.us [66.207.139.130]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE19D6D8D; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 03:02:04 -0300 (ADT) Received: from sss2.sss.pgh.pa.us (tgl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9161w0q005710; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 02:01:58 -0400 (EDT) To: "Jeffrey W. Baker" Cc: Luke Lonergan , Josh Berkus , Ron Peacetree , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [HACKERS] A Better External Sort? In-reply-to: <1128015863.11474.9.camel@noodles> References: <1128015863.11474.9.camel@noodles> Comments: In-reply-to "Jeffrey W. Baker" message dated "Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:44:23 -0700" Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 02:01:58 -0400 Message-ID: <5709.1128146518@sss.pgh.pa.us> From: Tom Lane X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.006 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.006] X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200510/1 X-Sequence-Number: 14769 "Jeffrey W. Baker" writes: > I think the largest speedup will be to dump the multiphase merge and > merge all tapes in one pass, no matter how large M. Currently M is > capped at 6, so a sort of 60GB with 1GB sort memory needs 13 passes over > the tape. It could be done in a single pass heap merge with N*log(M) > comparisons, and, more importantly, far less input and output. I had more or less despaired of this thread yielding any usable ideas :-( but I think you have one here. The reason the current code uses a six-way merge is that Knuth's figure 70 (p. 273 of volume 3 first edition) shows that there's not much incremental gain from using more tapes ... if you are in the regime where number of runs is much greater than number of tape drives. But if you can stay in the regime where only one merge pass is needed, that is obviously a win. I don't believe we can simply legislate that there be only one merge pass. That would mean that, if we end up with N runs after the initial run-forming phase, we need to fit N tuples in memory --- no matter how large N is, or how small work_mem is. But it seems like a good idea to try to use an N-way merge where N is as large as work_mem will allow. We'd not have to decide on the value of N until after we've completed the run-forming phase, at which time we've already seen every tuple once, and so we can compute a safe value for N as work_mem divided by largest_tuple_size. (Tape I/O buffers would have to be counted too of course.) It's been a good while since I looked at the sort code, and so I don't recall if there are any fundamental reasons for having a compile-time- constant value of the merge order rather than choosing it at runtime. My guess is that any inefficiencies added by making it variable would be well repaid by the potential savings in I/O. regards, tom lane