Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XCPlt-000618-Ui for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:02:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XCPls-00024V-N0 for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:02:04 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XCPlr-00024O-Sz for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:02:03 +0000 Received: from smtp-out2.gransy.com ([77.78.126.49]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XCPln-0007mA-CU for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:02:02 +0000 Received: from smtp-out.gransy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out2.gransy.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19183F0165 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:01:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.gransy.com (smtp.simplia.cz [77.78.126.20]) by smtp-out2.gransy.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C40F3F0164; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:01:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sq.gransy.com (elizabeth.gransy.com [89.187.132.199]) (Authenticated sender: tv@fuzzy.cz) by smtp.gransy.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E50E219A06E5; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:01:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 212.47.19.46 (SquirrelMail authenticated user tv@fuzzy.cz) by sq.gransy.com with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:01:55 +0200 Message-ID: <5d7d4ed635ce16023d8871f692053242.squirrel@sq.gransy.com> In-Reply-To: <53D862A0.80807@agliodbs.com> References: <53D862A0.80807@agliodbs.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:01:55 +0200 Subject: Re: Why you should turn on Checksums with SSDs From: "Tomas Vondra" To: "Josh Berkus" Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-performance Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org On 30 Červenec 2014, 5:12, Josh Berkus wrote: > Explained here: > https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/fast13/fast13-final80.pdf > > 13 out of 15 tested SSD's had various kinds of corruption on a power-out. > > (thanks, Neil!) Well, only four of the devices supposedly had a power-loss protection (battery, capacitor, ...) so I guess it's not really that surprising the remaining 11 devices failed in a test like this. Although it really shouldn't damage the device, as apparently happened during the tests. Too bad they haven't mentioned which SSDs they've been testing specifically. While I understand the reason for that (HP Labs can't just point at products from other companies), it significantly limits the usefulness of the study. Too many companies are producing crappy consumer-level devices, advertising them as "enterprise". I could name a few ... Maybe it could be deciphered using the information in the paper (power-loss protection, year of release, ...). I'd expect to see Intel 320/710 to see there, but that seems not to be the case, because those devices were released in 2011 and all the four devices with power-loss protection have year=2012. Or maybe it's the year when that particular device was manufactured? regards Tomas -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance