Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dWWnW-0002eB-CN for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:48:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dWWnV-0005qQ-Fd for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:48:29 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dWWnT-0005qC-CF for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:48:27 +0000 Received: from cat-porwal-prod-mail1.catalyst.net.nz ([2404:130:4080::4]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dWWnJ-0000WT-AH for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:48:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cat-porwal-prod-mail1.catalyst.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D228043B; Sun, 16 Jul 2017 11:48:11 +1200 (NZST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cat-porwal-prod-mail1.servers.catalyst.net.nz Received: from cat-porwal-prod-mail1.catalyst.net.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cat-porwal-prod-mail1.servers.catalyst.net.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gv_fa0tfqaty; Sun, 16 Jul 2017 11:48:08 +1200 (NZST) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (122-61-222-160.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [122.61.222.160]) (Authenticated sender: mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz) by cat-porwal-prod-mail1.catalyst.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8F618802B5; Sun, 16 Jul 2017 11:48:08 +1200 (NZST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=catalyst.net.nz; s=catalyst; t=1500162488; bh=nvrl+p/8oI+F/tLAds33QY9/xn8p+BmN/kA9Y9eaQAc=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=XyK4k4UjJdXuPV+DbgW08ASak/cUV1RHGW7nzV+0jTXBIE0n5fcPwlKc9efR934j0 0uW3mk6H2O+UY+jCa5krF3zy6zTtY19DjWaY/TPsVOsGLBl6UC0a1xULtkYQx4/pDh hzo18qATb332wIIIBrvu4Wzjyn44UsafvlSUn5mA= Subject: Re: Very poor read performance, query independent To: Charles Nadeau Cc: "pgsql-performa." References: From: Mark Kirkwood Message-ID: <70ce3831-fe97-fd63-35ec-a0f5b6e5f31b@catalyst.net.nz> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 11:48:08 +1200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-performance Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org Right, that is a bit of a show stopper for those SSD (the Intel needs SATA 6Gb/s and the Sammy's need PCIe 3.0 to perform to their rated specs). regards Mark On 16/07/17 04:12, Charles Nadeau wrote: > Mark, > > The server is a . It doesn't really work with SATA drives. And when > you find one that is compatible, it is only used at 3Gb/s with a > maximum of 50000 IOPS (a well know caracteristic of the HP P410i SAS > RAID controller). I am looking at getting a Kingston Digital HyperX > Predator that I could use in one of the PCIe 2.0 x4 slot. However I am > worried about the "thermal runaway", i.e. when the server can't get a > temperature reading from a PCIe card, it spins the fans at full speed > to protect the server against high temperature. The machine being next > to my desk I worry about the deafening noise it will create. > Thanks! > > Chales > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 1:57 AM, Mark Kirkwood > > > wrote: > > Thinking about this a bit more - if somewhat more blazing > performance is needed, then this could be achieved via losing the > RAID card and spinning disks altogether and buying 1 of the NVME > or SATA solid state products: e.g > > - Samsung 960 Pro or Evo 2 TB (approx 1 or 2 GB/s seq scan speeds > and 200K IOPS) > > - Intel S3610 or similar 1.2 TB (500 MB/s seq scan and 30K IOPS) > > > The Samsung needs an M.2 port on the mobo (but most should have > 'em - and if not PCIe X4 adapter cards are quite cheap). The Intel > is a bit more expensive compared to the Samsung, and is slower but > has a longer lifetime. However for your workload the Sammy is > probably fine. > > regards > > Mark > > On 15/07/17 11:09, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > > Ah yes - that seems more sensible (but still slower than I > would expect for 5 disks RAID 0). > > > > > -- > Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list > (pgsql-performance@postgresql.org > ) > To make changes to your subscription: > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance > > > > > > -- > Charles Nadeau Ph.D. > http://charlesnadeau.blogspot.com/ -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance