Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334AD1337BC3 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:33:05 -0400 (AST) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01237-07 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 19:32:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 00:05:26.056475 by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.90.230]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FEC31337BA8 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:32:57 -0400 (AST) Received: from [98.139.91.69] by nm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2010 19:27:29 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.13] by tm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2010 19:27:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2010 19:27:29 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 308588.5217.bm@omp1013.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 21897 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Dec 2010 19:27:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1292009248; bh=EnANQO6iDvzpypFmj1YQI7b57n553M66GxpzEYn/CTU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jSaO0QiR4HDvKhtwC2KdakqaUJyVTAC0fUzW2MtWXFZqRcdjv5/XO2Mnc9h0Z60/PXarIqidjxsP+bnSf4Nn/lSLp98WLxdiTLr0xYBTO5Jn77Gdr+upngnQXuZPconsdAh885sGGJmN3uJWprLUBxWasJdAAJZKv8GWxSWlOc4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IeD3zVOVeU8ylaqgkb62Mf8/DkQJXwPKZHirazGDbv3PzzSzrOO2KztLyAAdqZKFiNSvd2qsvmFxyTeX/GD9ttiTyMqwz7Oh7Wui9oF2O91Fk5VhTFN9BAZfiK8N9gZtBZEhXSLq6KsICWDfC+Ma1O8jKivzbL4NiecK1fE/sJI=; Message-ID: <867132.21532.qm@web111310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JCO4IJ4VM1n2uxIL3zNYNw22zlf14rl1vywbqsWMTddV1l3 SQy2wk8TWbEqXTnJj0XfL0eYshsLofVBitJ3s1w0i0Ty3afV7ScGwPEev97S HRG0.8RYQAGI2HOCWJIwiu5TTmHYY_nV__5r_8nWZ7ZdYk5UY_0bgj0V56Ey X90uNlgstkficRuuaaPw6yoCwnsLdH0kAbbLpdeWEcdBPFAM7QfBgIZe6P3t PLOVNrACAFNK0fE8r2_2Rn7dST9Dy5GUheiqXYMN6iu1f6Mr2S8sppLqDNJx yPu9Sbe9fnwEDLjB7hGN1JTEqDpKXOjgyH0oCPAJm79qGD9WbTKo9hJaPXNO G3RodMa4CP1G.CIkc3v_ZnH3YqMthcK.inbrnwt_c8CHRgfRL2QQYegclYr1 Bbwzp44n8dZsQ4KMX Received: from [24.34.116.197] by web111310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:27:28 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:27:28 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org, Arjen van der Meijden In-Reply-To: <4D026A09.3080108@tweakers.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.009 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=BAYES_20=-0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RFC_ABUSE_POST=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201012/151 X-Sequence-Number: 41603 > The "common knowledge" you based that comment on, may > actually not be very up-to-date anymore. Current > consumer-grade SSD's can achieve up to 200MB/sec when > writing sequentially and they can probably do that a lot > more consistent than a hard disk. > > Have a look here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2829/21 > The sequential writes-graphs consistently put several SSD's > at twice the performance of the VelociRaptor 300GB 10k rpm > disk and that's a test from over a year old, current SSD's > have increased in performance, whereas I'm not so sure there > was much improvement in platter based disks lately? The sequential IO performance of SSD may be twice faster than HDD, but the random IO performance of SSD is at least an order of magnitude faster. I'd think it'd make more sense to take advantage of SSD's greatest strength, which is random IO. The same website you linked, anandtech, also benchmarked various configurations of utilizing SSD: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2739/11 According to their benchmarks putting logs on SSD results in no performance improvements, while putting data on SSD leads to massive improvement. They used MySQL for the benchmarks. So perhaps Postgresql is different in this regard?