X-Original-To: pgsql-performance-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048AC9DCB8F for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:26:04 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 86395-04 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:26:02 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from mail.mnc.ch (62-2-77-205.business.cablecom.ch [62.2.77.205]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852E69DCC2E for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:26:01 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mnc.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D91AA82C0; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:26:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.mnc.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.test.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with ESMTP id 08982-08; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:26:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from meuh.mnc.lan (62-2-77-204.business.cablecom.ch [62.2.77.204]) by mail.mnc.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6227A82B9; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:26:08 +0100 (CET) Received: by meuh.mnc.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3C8E61836BA; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:25:56 +0100 (CET) To: Scott Marlowe Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: planner with index scan cost way off actual cost, References: <87ek11gz69.fsf@meuh.mnc.lan> <441CDAAA.20609@paradise.net.nz> <87d5ghms3h.fsf@meuh.mnc.lan> <20060321095049.GW15742@pervasive.com> <441FD82D.1040509@paradise.net.nz> <20060321115100.GM15742@pervasive.com> <87acbkkl0o.fsf@meuh.mnc.lan> <20060321174903.GG15742@pervasive.com> <87slpaj46q.fsf@meuh.mnc.lan> <1143044174.17999.7.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> X-Hashcash: 1:20:060322:smarlowe@g2switchworks.com::A59U6pkpHtXwDw3a:0000000000000000000000000000000000029Ba X-Hashcash: 1:20:060322:pgsql-performance@postgresql.org::KH3+AfmfPPKfTURi:00000000000000000000000000000178I From: Guillaume Cottenceau Date: 22 Mar 2006 17:25:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1143044174.17999.7.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> Message-ID: <87irq6e99n.fsf@meuh.mnc.lan> Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnc.ch X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.105 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.105] X-Spam-Score: 0.105 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200603/462 X-Sequence-Number: 17899 Hi Scott, Scott Marlowe writes: > On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 02:04, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: [...] > > Yes, we use 7.4.5 actually, because "it just works", so production > > wants to first deal with all the things that don't work before > > upgrading. I have recently discovered about the background writer > > of 8.x which could be a supplementary reason to push for an > > ugprade though. > > Imagine you get a call from the manufacturer of your car. There's a > problem with the fuel pump, and, in a small percentage of accidents, > your car could catch fire and kill everyone inside. > > Do you go in for the recall, or ignore it because you just want your car > to "just work?" Ah, this holy computer/OS/whatever-to-cars comparison.. How many million electrons would the world save if computer people would abandon it? :) > In the case of the third number in postgresql releases, that's what > you're talking about. the updates that have come after the 7.4.5 > version, just talking 7.4 series here, have included a few crash and > data loss fixes. Rare, but possible. I guess we didn't know that. I for myself have (a bit more) excuses because I'm on the development side :) But I've passed the information to the operation team, thank you. -- Guillaume Cottenceau