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[124.171.36.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u2sm16085059pgc.19.2019.12.06.14.42.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 06 Dec 2019 14:42:58 -0800 (PST) References: <0871fcf35ceb4caa8a2204ca9c38e330@USEPRDEX1.corp.kns.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.3.5; emacs 27.0.50 From: Tim Cross To: pgsql-performance@lists.postgresql.org Cc: Mike Schanne , "pgsql-performance@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: Legal disclaimers on emails to this group In-reply-to: Message-ID: <87v9qtjcsx.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2019 09:42:54 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Craig James writes: > (I've changed the original subject, "autovacuum locking question", of the > sender's email so as not to hijack that thread.) > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 2:26 PM Mike Schanne wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am investigating a performance problem... >> ... This email is non-binding, is subject to contract, and neither Kulic= ke >> and Soffa Industries, Inc. nor its subsidiaries (each and collectively >> =E2=80=9CK&S=E2=80=9D) shall have any obligation to you to consummate th= e transactions >> herein or to enter into any agreement, other than in accordance with the >> terms and conditions of a definitive agreement if and when negotiated, >> finalized and executed between the parties. This email and all its conte= nts >> are protected by International and United States copyright laws. Any >> reproduction or use of all or any part of this email without the express >> written consent of K&S is prohibited. >> > > Sorry to be off topic, but this bugs me. Language is important. This isn't > directed at you specifically, but I see these disclaimers all the time. H= ow > can you post to a public newsgroup that automatically reproduces your ema= il > to thousands of subscribers, and additionally publishes it on > publicly accessible archives, in direct conflict with your company's poli= cy > appended to your email? And why on Earth do your company's lawyers think > this sort of disclaimer is helpful and even legally useful? Not to mentio= n, > do they realize it's vaguely offensive to every customer and colleague who > receives it? > > Craig Oh how I hear you! This is what I was using as my email signature (but not for groups). I feel for the OP who probably has little choice (other than work for a different employer, which is a very valid choice given the 'organisational culture' exhibited by policies requiring such nonsense) Notice to all senders: If you send me a message, on receipt of that message I consider that messag= e to be my property and I will copy, share and deceminate as I see fit. I will provide attribution when appropriate and I willl endeavour to comply with a= ll reasonable requests. However, I reject all threats or implied threats of le= gal action arising from an error or mistake on your part. It is your responsibi= lity to manage your communications appropriately, not mine. --=20 Tim Cross