Subject: Re: AWS forcing PG upgrade from v9.6 a disaster
To: "Dean Gibson (DB Administrator)" <postgresql@mailpen.com>,
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From: Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
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Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 15:08:19 -0400
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On 5/28/21 2:48 PM, Dean Gibson (DB Administrator) wrote:
> [Reposted to the proper list]
>
> I started to use PostgreSQL v7.3 in 2003 on my home Linux systems (4
> at one point), gradually moving to v9.0 w/ replication in 2010.  In
> 2017 I moved my 20GB database to AWS/RDS, gradually upgrading to v9.6,
> & was entirely satisfied with the result.
>
> In March of this year, AWS announced that v9.6 was nearing end of
> support, & AWS would forcibly upgrade everyone to v12 on January 22,
> 2022, if users did not perform the upgrade earlier.  My first attempt
> was successful as far as the upgrade itself, but complex queries that
> normally ran in a couple of seconds on v9.x, were taking minutes in v12.
>
> I didn't have the time in March to diagnose the problem, other than
> some futile adjustments to server parameters, so I reverted back to a
> saved copy of my v9.6 data.
>
> On Sunday, being retired, I decided to attempt to solve the issue in
> earnest.  I have now spent five days (about 14 hours a day), trying
> various things, including adding additional indexes.  Keeping the v9.6
> data online for web users, I've "forked" the data into new copies, &
> updated them in turn to PostgreSQL v10, v11, v12, & v13.  All exhibit
> the same problem:  As you will see below, it appears that versions 10
> & above are doing a sequential scan of some of the "large" (200K rows)
> tables.  Note that the expected & actual run times both differ for
> v9.6 & v13.2, by more than *two orders of magnitude*. Rather than post
> a huge eMail (ha ha), I'll start with this one, that shows an "EXPLAIN
> ANALYZE" from both v9.6 & v13.2, followed by the related table & view
> definitions.  With one exception, table definitions are from the FCC
> (Federal Communications Commission);  the view definitions are my own.
>
>
>

Have you tried reproducing these results outside RDS, say on an EC2
instance running vanilla PostgreSQL?


cheers


andrew


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