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To: Andrei Lepikhov <[email protected]>
Cc: Alexey Ermakov <[email protected]>
Cc: Tom Lane <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: postgres chooses objectively wrong index
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2026 15:58:40 -0600
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 1:09 AM Andrei Lepikhov <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 18/3/26 19:38, Merlin Moncure wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 11:27 PM Alexey Ermakov <[email protected]
> > I think the planner is not giving enough bonus for an exact match versus
> > an inexact match on partial index mathcing, (A=A should be better than
> > A IN(A,B,C)), and it's unclear why the planner things bitmap heap + sort
> > is outperforming a raw read off the index base on marginal estimated row
> > counts. Lowering random_page_cost definitely biases the plan I like,
> > but it skews both estimates.
>
> One ongoing shortcoming is that cardinality estimation takes place early
> in the optimisation process and uses all filter conditions. This can be
> frustrating because a partial index covers just part of the table and
> could give the optimiser better statistics. If we ignored the index
> condition, we might get a more accurate estimate.
>
Thanks. I understand the challenge with estimation around partial
indexes. Something deeper seems to be at play here.
Poking around more, I see that the bad plans are related to bloat. A
simple REINDEX of one of the indexes made the problem disappear; however,
what's odd is that the estimates didn't really change although the net plan
cost certainly did. It's also worth noting ANALYZE doesn't help, only
REINDEX does.
I keep coming back to this: the bitmap scan noted above makes no sense. I'm
trying to figure out what is steering the planner in that direction and
eliminate it.
This problem reliably reproduces about once a month (taking down
production). I'll wait for it to recur and look at it with fresh eyes.
merlin
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