Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933002E344D for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:37:30 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 77077-04 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:37:19 -0400 (AST) Received: from westnet.com (westnet.com [216.187.52.2]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828432E344A for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:37:25 -0400 (AST) Received: from westnet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by westnet.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m14NbOT6027520 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:37:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gsmith@localhost) by westnet.com (8.14.0/8.13.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m14NbOND027517 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:37:24 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: westnet.com: gsmith owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:37:24 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Smith X-X-Sender: gsmith@westnet.com To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Benchmark Data requested In-Reply-To: <47A797E5.4000507@sun.com> Message-ID: References: <1202150236.4252.521.camel@ebony.site> <47A797E5.4000507@sun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200802/18 X-Sequence-Number: 28560 On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Jignesh K. Shah wrote: > Doing it at low scales is not attractive. Commercial databases are > publishing at scale factor of 1000(about 1TB) to 10000(10TB) with one in > 30TB space. So ideally right now tuning should start at 1000 scale > factor. I think what Simon was trying to get at is some sort of debunking of Monet's benchmarks which were running in-memory while not giving PostgreSQL any real memory to work with. What you're talking about is a completely separate discussion which is well worth having in addition to that. I'm well aware of how painful it is to generate+load+index even single TB worth of data with PostgreSQL right now because I've been doing just that for weeks now (there's two processing phases in there as well for me that take even longer, but the raw operations are still a significant portion of the total time). > I would be happy to help out if folks here want to do work related to > it. Infact if you have time, I can request a project in one of the Sun > Benchmarking center to see what we can learn with community members > interested in understanding where PostgreSQL performs and fails. Sounds like a good 8.4 project. Maybe pick this topic back up at the East convention next month, we could talk about it then. -- * Greg Smith gsmith@gregsmith.com http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD