Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A1F64FD02 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:42:56 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95396-03 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:42:53 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from westnet.com (westnet.com [216.187.52.2]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A0A64FCC4 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:42:53 -0300 (ADT) Received: from westnet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by westnet.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m89LgoM8007680; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:42:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (gsmith@localhost) by westnet.com (8.14.0/8.13.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m89LgoHi007676; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:42:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: westnet.com: gsmith owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:42:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Smith X-X-Sender: gsmith@westnet.com To: Amber cc: pgsql-general , J.K.Shah@Sun.COM Subject: Re: PostgreSQL TPC-H test result? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=none X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200809/365 X-Sequence-Number: 137372 On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Amber wrote: > I read something from > http://monetdb.cwi.nl/projects/monetdb/SQL/Benchmark/TPCH/index.html > saying that PostgreSQL can't give the correct result of the some TPC-H > queries Jignesh Shah at Sun ran into that same problem. It's mentioned briefly in his presentation at http://blogs.sun.com/jkshah/entry/postgresql_east_2008_talk_postgresql on pages 26 and 27. 5 of the 22 reference TCP-H queries (4, 5, 6, 10, 14) returned zero rows immediately for his tests. Looks like the MonetDB crew is saying it does that on queries 4,5,6,10,12,14,15 and that 20 takes too long to run to generate a result. Maybe 12/15/20 were fixed by changes in 8.3, or perhaps there were subtle errors there that Jignesh didn't catch--it's not like he did a formal submission run, was just kicking the tires. I suspect the difference on 20 was that his hardware and tuning was much better, so it probably did execute fast enough. While some of the MonetDB bashing in this thread was unwarranted, it is quite inappropriate that they published performance results here. Would be nice if someone in the community were to grab ahold of the TPC-H problems and try to shake them out. -- * Greg Smith gsmith@gregsmith.com http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD