Received: from localhost (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB979FA166 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 04:29:20 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28829-03 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 04:29:16 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A779FA3DA for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 04:29:15 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u2so133596uge for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 00:29:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=lTQDDZYHglSV8T1py6lK+flJavJKyKdyXLlg2y9xiFFceC1mbxoi3Ik7cakM5ven2A9wj4jJkp1QD0ho4tBIWJnqOPsSK2ZZEGoK4TAYgwzfUGfmuUTd3HrNLyuKV7gaTSogSVMehBu465RSonlgkx7HzEGs7ur/TRXw+omTRYE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Lv/6/A1OirEUlcOhbEvWaenDlLmx40w+0XeFWL8hgBeIlnrnLTLB7EJmw9vbEDCyAjFiSO3tqXES1J8eCLqpl+8ZUR1aa1AJir/2v8kSBVNRtgtGEPjXTErrd/1RSZ/O1DeFvGnKCtX44bw2bhUvr6doouSrDZiDxdbANRtedTs= Received: by 10.78.130.6 with SMTP id c6mr2179862hud.1180510154241; Wed, 30 May 2007 00:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.150.10 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2007 00:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 08:29:14 +0100 From: "Peter Childs" Subject: Re: setting up raid10 with more than 4 drives Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_437_21533208.1180510154201" References: <36e682920705292141k9aa038btb543d97cee0fa4a1@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200705/604 X-Sequence-Number: 24994 ------=_Part_437_21533208.1180510154201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 30/05/07, david@lang.hm wrote: > > On Wed, 30 May 2007, Jonah H. Harris wrote: > > > On 5/29/07, Luke Lonergan wrote: > >> AFAIK you can't RAID1 more than two drives, so the above doesn't make > >> sense > >> to me. > > > > Yeah, I've never seen a way to RAID-1 more than 2 drives either. It > > would have to be his first one: > > > > D1 + D2 = MD0 (RAID 1) > > D3 + D4 = MD1 ... > > D5 + D6 = MD2 ... > > MD0 + MD1 + MD2 = MDF (RAID 0) > > > > I don't know what the failure mode ends up being, but on linux I had no > problems creating what appears to be a massively redundant (but small) > array > > md0 : active raid1 sdo1[10](S) sdn1[8] sdm1[7] sdl1[6] sdk1[5] sdj1[4] > sdi1[3] sdh1[2] sdg1[9] sdf1[1] sde1[11](S) sdd1[0] > 896 blocks [10/10] [UUUUUUUUUU] > > David Lang > > Good point, also if you had Raid 1 with 3 drives with some bit errors at least you can take a vote on whats right. Where as if you only have 2 and they disagree how do you know which is right other than pick one and hope... But whatever it will be slower to keep in sync on a heavy write system. Peter. ------=_Part_437_21533208.1180510154201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 30/05/07, david@lang.hm <david@lang.hm> wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2007, Jonah H. Harris wrote:

> On 5/29/07, Luke Lonergan <llonergan@greenplum.com> wrote:
>>  AFAIK you can't RAID1 more than two drives, so the above doesn't make
>>  sense
>>  to me.
>
> Yeah, I've never seen a way to RAID-1 more than 2 drives either.  It
> would have to be his first one:
>
> D1 + D2 = MD0 (RAID 1)
> D3 + D4 = MD1 ...
> D5 + D6 = MD2 ...
> MD0 + MD1 + MD2 = MDF (RAID 0)
>

I don't know what the failure mode ends up being, but on linux I had no
problems creating what appears to be a massively redundant (but small) array

md0 : active raid1 sdo1[10](S) sdn1[8] sdm1[7] sdl1[6] sdk1[5] sdj1[4] sdi1[3] sdh1[2] sdg1[9] sdf1[1] sde1[11](S) sdd1[0]
       896 blocks [10/10] [UUUUUUUUUU]

David Lang


Good point, also if you had Raid 1 with 3 drives with some bit errors at least you can take a vote on whats right. Where as if you only have 2 and they disagree how do you know which is right other than pick one and hope... But whatever it will be slower to keep in sync on a heavy write system.

Peter.
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