Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uHTZX-002xzu-9g for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 20 May 2025 20:28:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uHTZU-008gEK-EP for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 20 May 2025 20:28:20 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uHTZU-008gEC-4J for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 20 May 2025 20:28:20 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1uHTZO-002oxU-2R for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 20 May 2025 20:28:16 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=momjian.us; s=2025010100; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description; bh=+kNSq0GeZzo5Paybk1X5e43YjlJ3b183pJN/+Js/eAQ=; b=TndbC 8ZkDfcynl5HfStpNp3nJhmZZev3kb6oAWmboKIek7SBczsxcwUDQpfplpBsWCuuhJdtFXT0PF0Zgp AAuvn5IS240NeMQiAk3rIJJ1zUOlwrBPLdC/LJL40HLRJPTrt3a+CtnrAxXrd6uEEqEvyekRCh9GA glbBVduBiuXs0wDOrSpn5QszbN10I57hM3h9+2iFPPu9ExoUNTLpcSuERDkx5kHeEqZ1JtSFeUS95 d/sWFG+7PcvMqZm7uCnwR4Vg+wr6LQMf88sPP619MvptAuhOJkhXr3iiL9MiNb/zrMakVJfN3LOjh tSERVFlnHUvRUY1Tc+PVzj8o1kwoA==; Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1uHTZB-005FII-0i; Tue, 20 May 2025 16:28:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 16:28:01 -0400 From: Bruce Momjian To: Daniel Gustafsson Cc: Marcos Pegoraro , Pavel Stehule , jian he , Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6@gmail.com>, Laurenz Albe , Erik Rijkers , Michael Paquier , Amit Kapila , DUVAL REMI , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: proposal: schema variables Message-ID: References: <41D2EE98-224D-4B43-9F8B-127525A99CD7@yesql.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41D2EE98-224D-4B43-9F8B-127525A99CD7@yesql.se> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 08:47:36PM +0200, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: > > On 20 May 2025, at 18:39, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > My only point is that we should only be using email lists for work that > > is being actively worked on to be added to community Postgres. There > > has been talk of a trimmed-down version of this being applied, but I > > don't see any work in that direction. > > > > This patch should be moved to a separate location where perhaps people > > can subscribe to updates when they are posted, perhaps github. > > As a project with no roadmap governed by open forum consensus I don't think we > have any right to tell community members what they can or cannot work on here, > any technical discussion which conforms with our published policies should be > welcome. If Pavel want's to continue rebasing his patchset here then he has, > IMHO, every right to do so. > > Whether or not a committer will show interest at some point is another thing, > but we are seeing a very good role-model for taking responsibility for ones > work here at the very least =) Well, we do have a right, e.g., we would not allow someone to repeatedly post patches for a Postgres extension we don't manage, or the jdbc driver. I also don't think we would allow someone to continue posting patches for a feature we have decided to reject, and I think we have decided to reject the patch in in its current form. I think we might accept a trimmed-down version, but I don't see the patch moving in that direction. Now, of course, if I am the only one who feels this way, I can suppress these emails on my end. -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Do not let urgent matters crowd out time for investment in the future.