X-Original-To: pgsql-performance-postgresql.org@postgresql.org Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9299FA3AF for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:58:56 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 36573-01 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:58:50 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428249FA64B for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:58:49 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so1763626ugf for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:58:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hTuc735/AuXHLhRYz4rxQbwaLhMjE5kcpkyUXt1KNVwOfC4tCzoDR4Z3VJes4Sk13TK+9XDTS+dsAawd2rNgQMYQwh5PtcWvUqbdqKkpeVZh/2cAEWV3V/l39Cd5s4BNBj/Z9Y9xAXfO9ODuRdoKOu0BpW0HFUzl1ZrD3IfapPo= Received: by 10.67.106.3 with SMTP id i3mr1839881ugm; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.11 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:58:47 -0400 From: "John Vincent" To: "Tim Allen" , "Scott Marlowe" , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: SAN performance mystery In-Reply-To: <20060619124153.GQ8588@kenobi.snowman.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3131_491715.1150721927454" References: <4491D61B.9040507@proximity.com.au> <1150408614.26538.95.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> <449677EB.50609@proximity.com.au> <20060619124153.GQ8588@kenobi.snowman.net> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200606/435 X-Sequence-Number: 19792 ------=_Part_3131_491715.1150721927454 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > I'd have to agree with you about the specific SAN/setup you're working > with there. I certainly disagree that it's a general property of SAN's > though. We've got a DS4300 with FC controllers and drives, hosts are > generally dual-controller load-balanced and it works quite decently. How are you guys doing the load balancing? IIRC, the RDAC driver only does failover. Or are you using the OS level multipathing instead? While we were on the 4300 for our AIX boxes, we just created two big RAID5 LUNs and assigned one to each controller. With 2 HBAs and LVM stripping that was about the best we could get in terms of load balancing. Indeed, the EMC SANs are generally the high-priced ones too, so not > really sure what to tell you about the poor performance you're seeing > out of it. Your IT folks and/or your EMC rep. should be able to resolve > that, really... The only exception I've heard to this is the Clarion AX150. We looked at one and we were warned off of it by some EMC gearheads. Enjoy, > > Stephen > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFElpuRrzgMPqB3kigRAuo8AJ9vlxRK7VPMb9rN7AFm/qMNHLbdBwCfZiih > ZHApIcDhhj/J/Es9KPXEl/s= > =25MX > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------=_Part_3131_491715.1150721927454 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline



I'd have to agree with you about the specific SAN/setup you're working
with there.  I certainly disagree that it's a general property of SAN's
though.  We've got a DS4300 with FC controllers and drives, hosts are
generally dual-controller load-balanced and it works quite decently.

How are you guys doing the load balancing? IIRC, the RDAC driver only does failover. Or are you using the OS level multipathing instead? While we were on the 4300 for our AIX boxes, we just created two big RAID5 LUNs and assigned one to each controller. With 2 HBAs and LVM stripping that was about the best we could get in terms of load balancing.

Indeed, the EMC SANs are generally the high-priced ones too, so not
really sure what to tell you about the poor performance you're seeing
out of it.  Your IT folks and/or your EMC rep. should be able to resolve
that, really...

The only exception I've heard to this is the Clarion AX150. We looked at one and we were warned off of it by some EMC gearheads.

        Enjoy,

                Stephen


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