Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1770BB5DBDC for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:32:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22460-06 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 19:32:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from elizabeth.gransy.com (elizabeth.gransy.com [89.187.132.199]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF339B5DBC4 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:32:17 -0300 (ADT) Received: from sq.gransy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elizabeth.gransy.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0986D15E4118; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:32:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 78.45.133.255 (SquirrelMail authenticated user tv@fuzzy.cz) by sq.gransy.com with HTTP; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:32:16 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <201108241848.061232@ms14.lnh.mail.rcn.net> References: <4E49B0A0.2060705@2ndQuadrant.com> <201108241848.061232@ms14.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:32:16 +0200 Subject: Re: Reports from SSD purgatory From: "Tomas Vondra" To: gnuoytr@rcn.com Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=BAYES_00=-1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201108/282 X-Sequence-Number: 44729 On 24 Srpen 2011, 20:48, gnuoytr@rcn.com wrote: > It's worth knowing exactly what that means. Turns out that NAND quality > is price specific. There's gooduns and baduns. Is this a failure in the > controller(s) or the NAND? Why is that important? It's simply a failure of electronics and it has nothing to do with the wear limits. It simply fails without prior warning from the SMART. > Also, given that PG is *nix centric and support for TRIM is win centric, > having that makes a big difference in performance. Windows specific? What do you mean? TRIM is a low-level way to tell the drive 'this block is empty and may be used for something else' - it's just another command sent to the drive. It has to be supported by the filesystem, though (e.g. ext4/btrfs support it). Tomas