Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98F89FA35A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:37:00 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03601-01 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:36:53 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7749C9F9F31 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:36:49 -0300 (ADT) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1422328rvb for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:36:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f8076f8UbW/xY0c73SOWrQvbnj1HC6gei2ksFo97Ioivu7vfZ8X9tDCNqyRgC2te9+9sS0MAQyT6QvHcTVA5JbQtmogpFXKzPvdfRieVoOkTkrCNXrVPBALkFJwyPeQbGYPOL/O3oD3qvoWzaAQCZPyuC92hsPUA8jWrZFxuCSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tGbMKkhDLLnGlbT3qiNMJfHfPr5+fpIubBPjyH6URLkECol5n+YiLP+Pa38Qeo2y1j8QOUGOi2ik5M5KFc3WUssnMSY0B1+6jSd1hW4tAoh0vsYA2qxDWhTxE27+QcqT0VnW98Sbiv4UxGn2xbXD5yDrBSOaweZ4jDVrHHU/rIg= Received: by 10.141.78.14 with SMTP id f14mr2968645rvl.1189021003776; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.159.11 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:36:43 -0500 From: "Scott Marlowe" To: "Trevor Talbot" Subject: Re: Performance on 8CPU's and 32GB of RAM Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org In-Reply-To: <90bce5730709051016j5291827dx525d6b8fe4960fbd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070904230639.GA23731@alvh.no-ip.org> <46DE66CF.9000903@theendofthetunnel.de> <90bce5730709051016j5291827dx525d6b8fe4960fbd@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200709/59 X-Sequence-Number: 26604 On 9/5/07, Trevor Talbot wrote: > On 9/5/07, Scott Marlowe wrote: > > On 9/5/07, Carlo Stonebanks wrote: > > > > Right, additionally NTFS is really nothing to use on any serious disc > > > > array. > > > > > > Do you mean that I will not see any big improvement if I upgrade the disk > > > subsystem because the client is using NTFS (i.e. Windows) > > > > No, I think he's referring more to the lack of reliability of NTFS > > compared to UFS / ZFS / JFS / XFS on unixen. > > Lack of reliability compared to _UFS_? Can you elaborate on this? Oh, the other issue that NTFS still seems to suffer from that most unix file systems have overcome is fragmentation. Since you can't defrag a live system, you have to plan time to take down the db should the NTFS partition for your db get overly fragmented. And there's the issue that with windows / NTFS that when one process opens a file for read, it locks it for all other users. This means that things like virus scanners can cause odd, unpredictable failures of your database.