Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026E59FB373 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:29:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07002-07 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:28:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mx1.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000289FB372 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:29:00 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by mx1.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1B3609B63 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:29:00 -0300 (ADT) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so251107rvb for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:28:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=yJWwMkCERUOaO+EHPk/VMhYCTF0l6O1XAxiKo5XjhEo=; b=KUsC8ZgqHQPQUcPDLAXSnEpNdtZpHWNedq0OXyEvY+TPYQHnsh5N1ER0fA0b2fSb/tvry/mfCpIu3WRpjjGsA9lNUacyhptqvvulpZb4m33PBSKgT+DZNXkXDt3H/yeqIfBwM9Z+bme1ixuJHEmm0klADktR+OAkBHYAFafCh9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Nlhp/F5f9HQqISq2QAD5z1WBaR367P+jvoy6P0IicmV99G85V0pI4idLzKaDuflHJl/V+jILMcfph06mRPayU4S3nrE6pUapDd9N/4dErKgaDobgJH+fkG/GP4NDedvGbPIo+9fnOkz8j/BF/C4wVGgR+pD5WtBdDvSgIno2hgo= Received: by 10.141.15.19 with SMTP id s19mr424306rvi.1189112374989; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.159.11 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:59:34 -0500 From: "Scott Marlowe" To: "James Mansion" Subject: Re: Performance on 8CPU's and 32GB of RAM Cc: "Trevor Talbot" , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org In-Reply-To: <46E0637F.2040800@mansionfamily.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070904230639.GA23731@alvh.no-ip.org> <46DE66CF.9000903@theendofthetunnel.de> <90bce5730709051016j5291827dx525d6b8fe4960fbd@mail.gmail.com> <46E0637F.2040800@mansionfamily.plus.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200709/101 X-Sequence-Number: 26646 On 9/6/07, James Mansion wrote: > Scott Marlowe wrote: > > And there's the issue that with windows / NTFS that when one process > > opens a file for read, it locks it for all other users. This means > > that things like virus scanners can cause odd, unpredictable failures > > of your database. > > > > > Can you provide some justification for this? Seeing as I didn't write Windows or any of the plethora of anti-virus software, no I really can't. It's unforgivable behaviour. Can I provide evidence that it happens? Just read the archives of this list for the evidence. I've seen it often enough to know that most anti-virus software seems to open files in exclusive mode and cause problems for postgresql, among other apps. > Why do you think that UNIX systems are better at handling large shared > buffers than Wndows? Because we've seen lots of problems with large shared buffers on windows here. Now, maybe for a windows specific app it's all fine and dandy. but for the way pgsql works, windows and large shared buffers don't seem to get along. I'm done. Use windows all you want. I'll stick to unix. It seems to just work for pgsql.