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To: Tom Lane <[email protected]>
Cc: Frédéric Yhuel <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Cc: Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais <[email protected]>
Cc: Christophe Courtois <[email protected]>
Cc: Laurenz Albe <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Indexes on expressions with multiple columns and operators
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 11:29:27 +0200
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On 13/10/2025 16:55, Tom Lane wrote:
> Andrei Lepikhov <[email protected]> writes:
>> On 25/9/2025 12:41, Frédéric Yhuel wrote:
>>> So, on SQL Server, you can do this:
>>> CREATE STATISTICS FooStats ON foo (ackid, crit) WHERE crit = 'WARNING';
>
>> Nice! Thanks for the report. I think the only reason why Postgres
>> doesn't have it yet is the computational cost.
>
> I think it's more lack of round tuits. If we had such an option for
> statistics objects, presumably we'd determine the applicability of a
> particular statistics object to a query the same way we do for partial
> indexes, namely try to prove the statistics' restriction condition
> from the query WHERE clauses. I've not heard complaints about that
> being unduly expensive.
>
> In the meantime, I believe the old-fashioned approach of creating
> a partial expression index and letting ANALYZE collect stats on that
> will serve, at least for simple statistics.I know at least two extensions (one of which is mine) that attempt to
analyse query post-execution state, identify unsuccessful predictions on
cardinality, number of groups, and work_mem, and fix these issues by
creating MCV and distinct extended statistics.
Of course, without extended statistics on join clauses, their effect is
highly limited, but we are preparing ;).
Many combinations of clauses may occur. Partial indexes can affect the
whole system's performance in automatic mode. Additionally, I would
personally like to play the same game as SQL Server already does -
compute statistics in an efficient manner - during a Scan. The filter of
such a scan may serve as a WHERE condition in the extended statistics.
--
regards, Andrei Lepikhov,
pgEdge
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