Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLTB0-0004ES-Kq for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:38:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLTAz-0002P4-Ks for pgsql-performance@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:38:29 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLT9I-0000Xl-Tt for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:36:45 +0000 Received: from mail-qk0-x243.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::243]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLT9F-0003ht-SY for pgsql-performance@postgresql.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:36:43 +0000 Received: by mail-qk0-x243.google.com with SMTP id r68so7179815qka.3 for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 03:36:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2CQH3vak+0QsYN+NrDRfvBazNu1IYi+xQEs+8yUuPiU=; b=rIEuzT7AAyznFLkSxVID0pvA7h9vx2/DauFLh5zuGdWavFWxJ2A3xtkgneVJLSz7CM 0dmnJLuqD0TLawkVMFhytx5s77DW3BCYosp3UXkpg6rtNIUOZoWhcW4T/bFWHU0Nf/7B y/nGtUwLRI+K0xkG8sBThjV8cednDWIEMFX3f3cLfUx5Wc4FcyakWw81Oo1eJnRiDn// Au8Itrib8qdzrCXnOVbZ1+t7D7qqpmTkgdgTpslAhLIBmCKDBFB9HHYHaNCn03k4LL2q XfNVmbXqHQeoAmXt9zH8wf7P2KEGvOUcWJGQrRu3CtbEN3vJXo4fCZSgiQ+M3Sdb18ZG iCOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2CQH3vak+0QsYN+NrDRfvBazNu1IYi+xQEs+8yUuPiU=; b=ZRj/x+wBRSsj9ufRn1JXazltn9ctHGosBRCt0E+7UxEaloZL81ngig4e8ZJ7rXTMuh km1ikfkah1Z2AoSMr9akhOwW/6E0mw6v13JH8hyMz+UnW65R0jhR9Yb8GuCapwdjQL4w u+0q/PVYTsZl6nyfLLLU25wkrt2xaYWR/1eL/u+P5QzdmK7UVG5PjXZnPGBUGb93Tjho SGBDjJOZXmp8U5yVir2E4oW3NbpDf0Z6ULsO/iKQziHnhWH7a5RTVQE0uMIFxxkaYhHP dv5JNvoDWT09DJTcOmiZC7GdqeVeqgWw8Eg4gRCiobbovWx6lACrdCqPCitUShDhNC7/ uFag== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tL3iiCaXAJSIdMn8IMx3NUBOjLylzp8KAA2ZdmXNVbsv8oCpR9XqIVGh4iIYSgiog== X-Received: by 10.194.246.70 with SMTP id xu6mr4514610wjc.124.1467974200509; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 03:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([81.196.63.17]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id g2sm1052463wjd.5.2016.07.08.03.36.39 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Jul 2016 03:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Capacitors, etc., in hard drives and SSD for DBMS machines... To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org References: <577F7F2A.10307@verizon.net> From: Levente Birta Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 13:36:46 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <577F7F2A.10307@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-performance Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-performance-owner@postgresql.org On 08/07/2016 13:23, Jean-David Beyer wrote: > Why all this concern about how long a disk (or SSD) drive can stay up > after a power failure? > > It seems to me that anyone interested in maintaining an important > database would have suitable backup power on their entire systems, > including the disk drives, so they could coast over any power loss. > > I do not have any database that important, but my machine has an APC > Smart-UPS that has 2 1/2 hours of backup time with relatively new > batteries in it. It is so oversize because my previous computer used > much more power than this one does. And if my power company has a brown > out or black out of over 7 seconds, my natural gas fueled backup > generator picks up the load very quickly. > > Am I overlooking something? > UPS-es can fail too ... :) And so many things could be happen ... once I plugged out the power cord from the UPS which powered the database server (which was a production server) ... I thought powering something else :) but lucky me ... the controller was flash backed -- Levi -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance