X-Original-To: pgsql-performance-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0313A542D7 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:32:59 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 57971-10 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:32:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from floppy.pyrenet.fr (news.pyrenet.fr [194.116.145.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E28B542CD for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:32:49 -0300 (ADT) Received: by floppy.pyrenet.fr (Postfix, from userid 106) id 1FC6E30E8B; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 20:31:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christopher Browne X-Newsgroups: pgsql.performance Subject: Re: Joel's Performance Issues WAS : Opteron vs Xeon Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:27:12 -0400 Organization: cbbrowne Computing Inc Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <20050423021107.GX58835@decibel.org> <001701c5480e$57e7fad0$797ba8c0@jfradkin> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.hub.org X-message-flag: Outlook is rather hackable, isn't it? X-Home-Page: http://www.cbbrowne.com/info/ X-Affero: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=cbbrowne User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:TzciKb9rv6zK1tANo1A8n6iSgHU= To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.387 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, INFO_TLD X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200504/652 X-Sequence-Number: 12049 Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when jfradkin@wazagua.com ("Joel Fradkin") would write: > I am just testing the water so to speak, if it cant handle single > user tests then multiple user tests are kind of a waste of time. I would suggest that if multi-user functionality is needed, then starting with single user tests is a similar waste of time. There's good reason to look at it this way... It is all too common for people to try to start building things with primitive functionality, and then try to "evolve" the system into what they need. It is possible for that to work, if the "base" covers enough of the necessary functionality. In practice, we have watched Windows evolve in such a fashion with respect to multiuser support, and, in effect, it has never really gotten it. Microsoft started by hacking something on top of MS-DOS, and by the time enough applications had enough dependancies on the way that worked, it has essentially become impossible for them to migrate properly to a multiuser model since applications are normally designed with the myopic "this is MY computer!" model of the world. You may not need _total_ functionality in the beginning, but, particularly for multiuser support, which has deep implications for applications, it needs to be there In The Beginning. -- output = reverse("moc.liamg" "@" "enworbbc") http://linuxdatabases.info/info/lisp.html A CONS is an object which cares. -- Bernie Greenberg.