Received: from maia.hub.org (unknown [200.46.208.211]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA1E631B0A for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:35:21 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71941-08 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:35:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [91.121.30.210]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 202336332CE for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:35:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: (qmail 30073 invoked by uid 503); 25 Mar 2010 20:38:45 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail624.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2010 20:38:45 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queueout) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2010 20:35:07 -0000 Received: from par69-8-88-161-102-87.fbx.proxad.net (HELO localhost) (lists%peufeu.com@88.161.102.87) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2010 20:35:05 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "James Mansion" , "Hannu Krosing" Cc: "Yeb Havinga" , "Greg Smith" , "Tom Lane" , "Ross J. Reedstrom" , pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: mysql to postgresql, performance questions References: <4BA23936.2030507@gmail.com> <4BA596D2.4050406@squeakycode.net> <20100323185232.GD6662@rice.edu> <5342.1269372121@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4BA934B9.9070401@2ndquadrant.com> <4BA9D39B.6020103@gmail.com> <1269421198.11473.50.camel@hvost> <4BABC1E0.7010607@mansionfamily.plus.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:29:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Pierre C" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4BABC1E0.7010607@mansionfamily.plus.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.10 (Linux) X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 14481606077209970183 X-Ovh-Remote: 88.161.102.87 (par69-8-88-161-102-87.fbx.proxad.net) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.586 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=AWL=-1.587, BAYES_50=0.001, SARE_OEM_OBFU=1 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201003/326 X-Sequence-Number: 38151 > Hannu Krosing wrote: >> Pulling the plug should not corrupt a postgreSQL database, unless it was >> using disks which lie about write caching. >> > Didn't we recently put the old wife's 'the disks lied' tale to bed in > favour of actually admiting that some well known filesystems and > saftware raid systems have had trouble with their write barriers? I put a cheap UPS on the home server (which uses Software RAID) precisely because I don't really trust that stuff, and there is also the RAID5 write hole... and maybe the RAID1 write hole too... and installing a UPS takes less time that actually figuring out if the system is power-loss-safe.