Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5FD6502BF for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:41:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21930-08 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:41:00 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from 42.mail-out.ovh.net (42.mail-out.ovh.net [213.251.189.42]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A54746502BA for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:41:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: (qmail 446 invoked by uid 503); 7 Jul 2008 17:40:49 -0000 Received: from gw2.ovh.net (HELO mail194.ha.ovh.net) (213.251.189.202) by 42.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 7 Jul 2008 17:40:49 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 7 Jul 2008 17:41:01 -0000 Received: from par69-8-88-161-102-87.fbx.proxad.net (HELO apollo13.peufeu.com) (88.161.102.87) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 7 Jul 2008 17:41:00 -0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:50:30 +0200 To: "Dan Harris" , "pgsql-performance@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: Fusion-io ioDrive From: PFC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <48723D76.40202@drivefaster.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <48723D76.40202@drivefaster.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.24 (Linux) X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 6137280392939767348 X-Ovh-Remote: 88.161.102.87 (par69-8-88-161-102-87.fbx.proxad.net) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.500502/N X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.625 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL=0.625 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200807/63 X-Sequence-Number: 30663 > PFC, I have to say these kind of posts make me a fan of yours. I've > read many of your storage-related replied and have found them all very > educational. I just want to let you know I found your assessment of the > impact of Flash storage perfectly-worded and unbelievably insightful. > Thanks a million for sharing your knowledge with the list. -Dan Hehe, thanks. There was a time when you had to be a big company full of cash to build a computer, and then sudenly people did it in garages, like Wozniak and Jobs, out of off-the-shelf parts. I feel the ioDrive guys are the same kind of hackers, except today's hackers have much more powerful tools. Perhaps, and I hope it's true, storage is about to undergo a revolution like the personal computer had 20-30 years ago, when the IBMs of the time were eaten from the roots up. IMHO the key is that you can build a ioDrive from off the shelf parts, but you can't do that with a disk drive. Flash manufacturers are smelling blood, they profit from USB keys and digicams but imagine the market for solid state drives ! And in this case the hardware is simple : flash, ram, a fpga, some chips, nothing out of the ordinary, it is the brain juice in the software (which includes FPGAs) which will sort out the high performance and reliability winners from the rest. Lowering the barrier of entry is good for innovation. I believe Linux will benefit, too, since the target is (for now) high-performance servers, and as shown by the ioDrive, innovating hackers prefer to write Linux drivers rather than Vista (argh) drivers.