Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jbOTV-0003aH-SG for pgsql-pkg-yum@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 13:09:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jbOTU-0002F2-QI for pgsql-pkg-yum@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 13:09:32 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jbOTU-0002Db-Kx for pgsql-pkg-yum@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 13:09:32 +0000 Received: from forward5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.239]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jbOTR-0004XK-IP for pgsql-pkg-yum@postgresql.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 13:09:31 +0000 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailforward.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690A21941320; Wed, 20 May 2020 09:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 20 May 2020 09:09:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=mJh8sbjB4sQJelRsmrxRr5y7OjN04so5x7vmJSzHg 58=; b=wiGIg5BKET2wo7FXQ7ApVIKIpyutQLcQlqdcwJJb802f/JG77iDIx+U+p El5octnSsdACWYc6CTH+vqqEFpsCwPzHrsibjSaMur/2OK/O7rKmU4bxTSjR/9EV R08qPSBN98ueCLU09TRuTxVq/q5yxIIEzq7YAJb0aLBYLuHBlW8WsPFPo2xhJuTM N2wQVuCXnugdLHd5pwqqxoL3NonwDqeyz0iE3+kq+wBw13BIHoIDWHx488PckvSs IRJCN+fi3b2kRlKyYIAx/7Xfx6oyuZcCqKdkhTubt3bIQHq8S5/uYujAabCQx7WS m54cpJyl42JC4rOQTmAuiVw2DVfiw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedruddtledgiedtucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepuffvfhfhohfkffgfgggjtgfgsehtkeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpefrvght vghrucfgihhsvghnthhrrghuthcuoehpvghtvghrrdgvihhsvghnthhrrghuthesvdhnug hquhgrughrrghnthdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepleffffetffejfefhheff veekieetieekudeffffhheevieelhfethfegfeduhedtnecuffhomhgrihhnpedvnhguqh hurggurhgrnhhtrdgtohhmnecukfhppeelfedrvdegfedrkedvrddvgeeinecuvehluhhs thgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepphgvthgvrhdrvghish gvnhhtrhgruhhtsedvnhguqhhurggurhgrnhhtrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Received: from april.pezone.net (p5df352f6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.243.82.246]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7580A328005A; Wed, 20 May 2020 09:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Can we stop defaulting to 'ident'? To: =?UTF-8?B?RGV2cmltIEfDvG5kw7x6?= , Stephen Frost References: <7761d006b5ace13a4d86ce489123e5004aaf8b6c.camel@gunduz.org> <20200519212710.GQ13712@tamriel.snowman.net> <6089d4c8e262dd6fe8a6510c283e674543a24b5c.camel@gunduz.org> Cc: Craig Ringer , pgsql-pkg-yum From: Peter Eisentraut Organization: 2ndQuadrant Message-ID: <3869d8c9-c212-8d73-52f4-13b03abe4813@2ndquadrant.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 15:09:24 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6089d4c8e262dd6fe8a6510c283e674543a24b5c.camel@gunduz.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 2020-05-20 00:26, Devrim Gündüz wrote: >> +1 to scram-sha-256 for the default for host-based/TCP connections. >> For local, we should be using peer, just like Debian's default has >> been for ages. > > YEah, this is what I committed just now. Still, would love to hear from > others if there are any objections. The upstream default is still to use md5 passwords by default, and some deliberation has gone into that to keep it that way. So it would make sense to have the RPMs also do that. The Debian packages also still use md5. Some consistency across the board would be good. Otherwise it will be very confusing for users if everyone just goes into their own direction. -- Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services