Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1tmaFL-007pvV-Bd for pgsql-pkg-debian@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2025 15:19:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1tmaFJ-003yUl-JD for pgsql-pkg-debian@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2025 15:19:49 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1tmaFJ-003yTH-Ck for pgsql-pkg-debian@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2025 15:19:49 +0000 Received: from mout-p-102.mailbox.org ([2001:67c:2050:0:465::102]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1tmaFF-000UoM-1B for pgsql-pkg-debian@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2025 15:19:47 +0000 Received: from smtp102.mailbox.org (smtp102.mailbox.org [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:b231:465::102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mout-p-102.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Z1ktN5m0Gz9sTZ; Mon, 24 Feb 2025 16:19:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 16:19:39 +0100 From: Christoph Berg To: Schmid Andreas Cc: "pgsql-pkg-debian@lists.postgresql.org" Subject: Re: Change in behavior when installing an additional PostgreSQL major version Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Z1ktN5m0Gz9sTZ List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Re: Schmid Andreas > Now, I had to add a separate pg_createcluster command, which basically wasn't a big deal. However, as I had to do quite some research to understand why all of a sudden my script didn't work anymore, maybe you can give some background about the reasons that led to this change? Hi, the old behavior wasn't practical for the majority of users. To upgrade, you had to install the new PG package and then run "pg_dropcluster" as the first command. That was weird and possibly dangerous. Christoph