Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jeOmp-0006KE-K7 for pgsql-pkg-yum@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 20:05:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jeOml-0004z7-HA for pgsql-pkg-yum@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 20:05:51 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jeOmk-0004yz-AO for pgsql-pkg-yum@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 20:05:51 +0000 Received: from forward5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.239]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jeOmf-0005QW-Ph for pgsql-pkg-yum@postgresql.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 20:05:49 +0000 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailforward.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB421940B6E; Thu, 28 May 2020 16:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 28 May 2020 16:05:43 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=HXVUUcSeuAT6iHT5O9Ub54f1MMLI+qhdITRvqfsqx gs=; b=Um6h+AJlal6m5xsMSlnCTGhdV39quqkgFqXJOPK1zJhqRm5Wke9UDFeBA fOkC4KDo1QwY1yK2n8MRltrfHFDrt9B8Q6T7bK6nbFcT4a7B8FjcqdyiMSDvezZW 6bTMDj/TTRZPHHMf27ki91oFDxPcvgY80Ub12gbkjkkRjilxtKH+faqWYr0LKbtd WsjvGqPi6xBR5rs4lZg+yw0+YF6rNWTlh3YoHIY/1ELqgpwBvoBTyhz4nD0sXYrb jsl1Pkyj0aKwhy2uq6MetWNtDwBK3hRZSV04HMLvuTFR2JoHy7ZMdhnyHLtG6eVE AErQtuPUMOrNIkktY1RxJn4MurBDQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedruddviedgkeelucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepuffvfhfhohfkffgfgggjtgfgsehtjeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpefrvght vghrucfgihhsvghnthhrrghuthcuoehpvghtvghrrdgvihhsvghnthhrrghuthesvdhnug hquhgrughrrghnthdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnheptdevgeehtdejvdevvdel jeeuveejjedtleelgfekleefieekjeelgfektdduuedvnecuffhomhgrihhnpedvnhguqh hurggurhgrnhhtrdgtohhmnecukfhppeelfedrvdegfedrkedvrddvgeeinecuvehluhhs thgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepphgvthgvrhdrvghish gvnhhtrhgruhhtsedvnhguqhhurggurhgrnhhtrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Received: from april.pezone.net (p5df352f6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.243.82.246]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 10F0F3280063; Thu, 28 May 2020 16:05:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Can we stop defaulting to 'md5'? To: Christoph Berg , Stephen Frost , =?UTF-8?B?RGV2cmltIEfDvG5kw7x6?= , Craig Ringer , pgsql-pkg-yum References: <20200528163856.GB107313@msg.df7cb.de> From: Peter Eisentraut Organization: 2ndQuadrant Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 22:05:40 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200528163856.GB107313@msg.df7cb.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 2020-05-28 18:38, Christoph Berg wrote: > Why do I have to decide*in pg_hba.conf* which hash algorithm is used? > Why can't that just be "password"? > > The password_encryption GUC should be the only place concerned with > that, and it should only be used for new passwords. Existing passwords > should just continue to work.*That* would allow seamless upgrades. You get that if you set the authentication method to "md5". (Clearly not a very clear name, but it exists.) -- Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services