Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rSbKf-00Eji4-9Y for pgsql-pkg-yum@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:22:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rSbKe-004AdQ-0h for pgsql-pkg-yum@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:22:12 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rSbKd-004Ac6-GP for pgsql-pkg-yum@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:22:11 +0000 Received: from mail-wm1-x32e.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::32e]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rSbKY-0037Kj-Pu for pgsql-pkg-yum@postgresql.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:22:09 +0000 Received: by mail-wm1-x32e.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-40eb033c192so17205615e9.0 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 03:22:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=codematix-de.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1706095324; x=1706700124; darn=postgresql.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to:subject :user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=fPz/jl0Dc03GjA5MgouY77qN0uSVtC9s/GzrVyhVNUU=; b=hMGvxw9USIVozxCkXpTiM2ZhenUBElMUtsMqty/JBbry/nsnIMzTDmkyTaP4Wolg/2 L2Z8Z62hCqenhuAcdUouf69ybH9bB0vH96aUXp6IzRByQyR6sJUUwIR5wn0sw9Q5F/OU 5Who9JrIvdOAhuLNZwmwTdKHUsQys70ZvgMVdoqcueWOTtFzss87PkCZKXIWDp05qz4y huahBm+nNVFeApj1hYzilUleMgnPUivYiZTQ0DgY+yGyR93VH3GF24EAHmU4urcP+T5y XGaLqUfahQVUC61Wztv3rrwvrAWgRU+SLU495fv/N50jfrDRkpNWm5/bo0ubVNbB9kQU b2Hg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1706095324; x=1706700124; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to:subject :user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:x-gm-message-state:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=fPz/jl0Dc03GjA5MgouY77qN0uSVtC9s/GzrVyhVNUU=; b=qqDeyofOAqf6LDFPodkFqoC+0YDXkK22fXIdhgfxrm6mYTVFfUh7hXaGbh7/B0hA+w p/ljDrad4pyk+8x8E1I0vOszyA5z/JtTiYQj+lG4X4WuS+D8kc47Vohp2y337Ao0+rY8 oOGcWjZxrJSdtDsUeVXS8ciaDz8MSVQ4H4w6tF0hgweTg+UtV9s7nbzzN/9oLUVfkHlP SVHtiTytALgPj0ZaJHBLHvsl+85mQTbCIlQB5LDabzNnfEkcgGRR6wHqK60JNXVS5JWZ iXw7vef6K51Xw3WeujmX39BmgN/2+gRNmIlFDEd/1wA46h/RsNfLnSURxn7va/uhWV36 54ag== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxcY40k3aHy+aDp+PbLptqjruz0DiQDXN5QhjLZagkrfuUfomi2 h88NQgy7AZg4U9+m1UeOsWl1IzEFnNttf0i9oOLDV8MipuwQz8OkpNqZKFT732U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGX3tLqCVD4fk92X/fEv/K4j40im0R9GhRRmrLtKr6g2tnySq6qmt0yb+uy+wTScBsDR9cKHQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:3f9b:b0:40e:4112:45f2 with SMTP id fs27-20020a05600c3f9b00b0040e411245f2mr611072wmb.41.1706095324131; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 03:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.35] ([213.182.143.106]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i17-20020a05600c355100b0040d5f466deesm45202328wmq.38.2024.01.24.03.22.03 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jan 2024 03:22:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5e65c86d-f060-455c-8ffe-759164782f54@codematix.de> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 12:22:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: armadillo major update 10 to 12 in epel To: =?UTF-8?B?RGV2cmltIEfDvG5kw7x6?= , pgsql-pkg-yum@postgresql.org References: <6bf9ebfb-1ce4-4983-84eb-ae7765d3923f@codematix.de> <9a65b49c51a061fdea7768ed991923626606f21e.camel@gunduz.org> From: Holger Schiebold In-Reply-To: <9a65b49c51a061fdea7768ed991923626606f21e.camel@gunduz.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Hi Devrim and thanks for the info, the problem for us is i.e. on RHEL8 machines in the data center where some times ago a former Version of postgis31_12 (postgis31_12-0:3.1.9-1.rhel8.x86_64) with dependency gdal34-libs was installed - now the "yum update" in an automatic patchcycle fails because gdal36-libs is not an update of gdal34-libs. So we have to manually remove an all machines the gdal34-libs and reinstall the postgis package with the alternativ dependency gdal36-libs - right? On RHEL9 same problem with i.e. older installs of  postgis31_12-0:3.1.7-1.rhel9.x86_64 - (yum deplist postgis31_12-0:3.1.7-1.rhel9.x86_64 | grep gdal) - where gdal33-libs as dependency came with it. On RHEL9 i.e. we have machines with installed postgis30 too with only dependency to gdal33-libs. There we cannot use postgis30 anymore - only higher Versions as fresh installs. (this is normally not possible in a specified production environment) All manually tasks has to be done by a lot of different admins at each stage in the data center (dev, test, int, prod) So would it be possible to build alle the gdal3* alternatives (gdal33, 34, 35 ) too against the armadillo 12? Only in that case the next "yum update" is not broken - we think. Otherwise these Versions and postgis30 in RHEL9 i.e. in the postgres yum repo must be considered as broken - right? best regards Holger Am 23.01.2024 um 20:22 schrieb Devrim Gündüz: > Hi, > > On Tue, 2024-01-23 at 14:54 +0100, Holger Schiebold wrote: >> it seems that again armadillo major update in epel (this time from 10 >> to 12) breaks the gdal3* packages in postgres yum repos (RHEL 8 and >> 9), so we cannot use  certain packages from postgres el repositories >> and yum update on machines with both repositories is broken. >> >> Will there be builds of the gdal3*  packages against the new armadillo >> 12 package from epel to solve that or do we have to do other things >> while we use postgres and epel repositories? > This has been fixed already in GDAL 3.6.4-6 RPMs. > >> Btw. - why the epel guys do major upgrades of this library - isn't it >> completely against the el way of things? Was this ever discussed with >> the epel guys? > RHEL also do such updates with LLVM and CLANG, already broke poppler and > armadillo in the past, so my job is to rebuild the packages on our side > when such updates are released. > > Regards, mit freundlichen Grüßen -- Holger Schiebold ____________________ codematix GmbH Felsbachstrasse 5/7 D-07745 Jena Tel. +49 (3641) 3038-18 www.codematix.de