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* Issues with the latest minor updates and Alma/Rocky 9 and 10 @ 2025-11-13 21:15 Devrim Gündüz <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Devrim Gündüz @ 2025-11-13 21:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: PostgreSQL RPM Packaging <[email protected]> We use Red Hat Enterprise Linux to build x86_64 RPMs for RHEL and its clones. Red Hat pushed OpenSSL 3.5 as a part of 10.1 and 9.7 release, and these updates did not make into both Rocky and Alma yet. Currently latest minor updates built on RHEL 10.1 and 9.7 cannot be installed on Rocky/Alma 9 and 10 because of this. We always had LLVM breakage during RHEL minor updates that was slightly easier to deal with and affected very minority of users (and we have sysupdates repo anyway and there is a plan to fix it permanently for future), but this OpenSSL update issue is not easy to solve. FWIW Rocky/Alma 8 are not affected. So this is just a "I know the problem, however currently there is not much I can do other than waiting for Rocky and Alma to catch up" email, but I'm also open to suggestions. Regards, -- Devrim Gündüz Open Source Solution Architect, PostgreSQL Major Contributor BlueSky: @devrim.gunduz.org , @gunduz.org Attachments: [application/pgp-signature] signature.asc (858B, 2-signature.asc) download ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Issues with the latest minor updates and Alma/Rocky 9 and 10 @ 2025-11-15 04:49 Marcin Cieslak <[email protected]> parent: Devrim Gündüz <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Marcin Cieslak @ 2025-11-15 04:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Devrim_G=FCnd=FCz?= <[email protected]>; +Cc: PostgreSQL RPM Packaging <[email protected]> On Fri, 14 Nov 2025, Devrim Gündüz wrote: > Currently latest minor updates built on RHEL 10.1 and 9.7 cannot be > installed on Rocky/Alma 9 and 10 because of this. Does this also mean that they do not work for, say, RHEL 9.6 that is not updated to 9.7? Marcin Attachments: [application/pkcs7-signature] smime.p7s (3.6K, 2-smime.p7s) download ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Issues with the latest minor updates and Alma/Rocky 9 and 10 @ 2025-11-15 15:02 Devrim Gündüz <[email protected]> parent: Devrim Gündüz <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Devrim Gündüz @ 2025-11-15 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: PostgreSQL RPM Packaging <[email protected]> Hi, I think I fixed this problem. Rocky Linux / Alma Linux 9 and 10 users please enable sysupdates repo first. You may need a recent repository RPM/configuration (pushed a new repository RPM today as well) . That repo now includes OpenSSL 3.5.1 along with LLVM/CLANG 20, crypto- policies, etc and all of them have PGDG suffix in the package names. My tests were successful on my test boxes. Regards, Devri On Fri, 2025-11-14 at 00:15 +0300, Devrim Gündüz wrote: > > We use Red Hat Enterprise Linux to build x86_64 RPMs for RHEL and its > clones. > > Red Hat pushed OpenSSL 3.5 as a part of 10.1 and 9.7 release, and > these > updates did not make into both Rocky and Alma yet. > > Currently latest minor updates built on RHEL 10.1 and 9.7 cannot be > installed on Rocky/Alma 9 and 10 because of this. > > We always had LLVM breakage during RHEL minor updates that was > slightly > easier to deal with and affected very minority of users (and we have > sysupdates repo anyway and there is a plan to fix it permanently for > future), but this OpenSSL update issue is not easy to solve. > > FWIW Rocky/Alma 8 are not affected. > > So this is just a "I know the problem, however currently there is not > much I can do other than waiting for Rocky and Alma to catch up" > email, > but I'm also open to suggestions. > > Regards, -- Devrim Gündüz Open Source Solution Architect, PostgreSQL Major Contributor BlueSky: @devrim.gunduz.org , @gunduz.org Attachments: [application/pgp-signature] signature.asc (858B, 2-signature.asc) download ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Issues with the latest minor updates and Alma/Rocky 9 and 10 @ 2025-11-17 09:56 Bernd Helmle <[email protected]> parent: Devrim Gündüz <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Bernd Helmle @ 2025-11-17 09:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Devrim Gündüz <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL RPM Packaging <[email protected]> Hi Devrim, Am Samstag, dem 15.11.2025 um 18:02 +0300 schrieb Devrim Gündüz: > > Hi, > > I think I fixed this problem. Rocky Linux / Alma Linux 9 and 10 users > please enable sysupdates repo first. You may need a recent repository > RPM/configuration (pushed a new repository RPM today as well) . That > repo now includes OpenSSL 3.5.1 along with LLVM/CLANG 20, crypto- > policies, etc and all of them have PGDG suffix in the package names. > My > tests were successful on my test boxes. > FYI, With sysupdates enabled, this doesn't work on one of my test VMs here. Thats because it has mesa-vulkan drivers installed (gnome-session depends on it) and they want llvm-19, but sysupdates now has llvm-20 in its offering. The output: Problem 1: package mesa-dri-drivers-24.2.8-3.el9_6.x86_64 from @System requires libLLVM.so.19.1()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - package mesa-dri-drivers-24.2.8-3.el9_6.x86_64 from @System requires libLLVM.so.19.1(LLVM_19.1)(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - cannot install both llvm-libs-20.1.8-44PGDG.el9.x86_64 from pgdg- rhel9-sysupdates and llvm-libs-19.1.7-1.el9.x86_64 from @System - cannot install both llvm-libs-20.1.8-44PGDG.el9.x86_64 from pgdg- rhel9-sysupdates and llvm-libs-19.1.7-3PGDG.el9.x86_64 from pgdg-rhel9- sysupdates - cannot install both llvm-libs-19.1.7-1.el9.x86_64 from appstream and llvm-libs-20.1.8-44PGDG.el9.x86_64 from pgdg-rhel9-sysupdates - cannot install the best update candidate for package mesa-dri- drivers-24.2.8-3.el9_6.x86_64 - cannot install the best update candidate for package llvm-libs- 19.1.7-1.el9.x86_64 Problem 2: package mesa-vulkan-drivers-24.2.8-3.el9_6.x86_64 from @System requires libLLVM.so.19.1()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - package mesa-vulkan-drivers-24.2.8-3.el9_6.x86_64 from @System requires libLLVM.so.19.1(LLVM_19.1)(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - cannot install both llvm-libs-20.1.8-44PGDG.el9.x86_64 from pgdg- rhel9-sysupdates and llvm-libs-19.1.7-1.el9.x86_64 from @System - cannot install both llvm-libs-20.1.8-44PGDG.el9.x86_64 from pgdg- rhel9-sysupdates and llvm-libs-19.1.7-3PGDG.el9.x86_64 from pgdg-rhel9- sysupdates - cannot install both llvm-libs-19.1.7-1.el9.x86_64 from appstream and llvm-libs-20.1.8-44PGDG.el9.x86_64 from pgdg-rhel9-sysupdates - package libomp-20.1.8-44PGDG.el9.x86_64 from pgdg-rhel9-sysupdates requires llvm-libs(x86-64) = 20.1.8-44PGDG.el9, but none of the providers can be installed - package libomp-20.1.8-44PGDG.el9.x86_64 from pgdg-rhel9-sysupdates requires libLLVM.so.20.1()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - package libomp-20.1.8-44PGDG.el9.x86_64 from pgdg-rhel9-sysupdates requires libLLVM.so.20.1(LLVM_20.1)(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - cannot install the best update candidate for package mesa-vulkan- drivers-24.2.8-3.el9_6.x86_64 - cannot install the best update candidate for package libomp-19.1.7- 1.el9.x86_64 There are more problems logged, but it seems they're all related to this conflict. Bernd ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Issues with the latest minor updates and Alma/Rocky 9 and 10 @ 2025-11-17 14:07 Devrim Gündüz <[email protected]> parent: Bernd Helmle <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Devrim Gündüz @ 2025-11-17 14:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bernd Helmle <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL RPM Packaging <[email protected]> Hi, On Mon, 2025-11-17 at 10:56 +0100, Bernd Helmle wrote: > With sysupdates enabled, this doesn't work on one of my test VMs here. > Thats because it has mesa-vulkan drivers installed (gnome-session > depends on it) and they want llvm-19, but sysupdates now has llvm-20 > in its offering. The output: <snip> I know I cannot make everyone and every installation happy (for now, at least), and I definitely intentionally ignored those dependencies by aiming at server installations only. Sorry about that, this is the first time it happened and lots of last-minute updates ended up with lack of testing on Rocky and AlmaLinux :( Apologies. That said, working on a permanent solution: https://github.com/pgdg-packaging/pgdg-rpms/issues/119#issuecomment-3541939057 Regards, -- Devrim Gündüz Open Source Solution Architect, PostgreSQL Major Contributor BlueSky: @devrim.gunduz.org , @gunduz.org Attachments: [application/pgp-signature] signature.asc (858B, 2-signature.asc) download ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 5+ messages in thread
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