Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8019B9FB9C7 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:21:26 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 94807-01 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:21:21 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023809FB469 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:21:21 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.7.5] ([71.101.8.219]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JGS005E7T3CEVZ7@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for pgsql-sql@postgresql.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:21:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:21:11 -0400 From: Joe Subject: Re: We all are looped on Internet: request + transport = invariant In-reply-to: <4628B6FD.1030209@archonet.com> To: Richard Huxton Cc: Dmitry Turin , Andrew Sullivan , pgsql-sql@postgresql.org Message-id: <1177075271.760.48.camel@pampa> Organization: Freedom Circle, LLC MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <14110647859.20070413105812@narod.ru> <20070413150936.GA31517@phlogiston.dyndns.org> <1684192906.20070419090827@narod.ru> <20070419134808.GB14187@phlogiston.dyndns.org> <814860828.20070420120819@narod.ru> <4628A08F.9050804@archonet.com> <1177072978.760.40.camel@pampa> <4628B6FD.1030209@archonet.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200704/183 X-Sequence-Number: 28183 Hi Richard, On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 13:50 +0100, Richard Huxton wrote: > OK, but I'm still not seeing how this avoids me having to use > PHP/Perl/etc anyway. I mean, I'm going to need some application logic at > some point, in which case who cares whether the RDBMS has this specific > layout as a format. I can see how it might be useful as a library, but > then there are libraries that provide plenty of XML formatting. But if TML catches on so that "even a caveman can do it" *, i.e., query a database from just a browser, then you and I (and most everyone on this list) will be out of a job and PHP/Perl/etc. will be relegated to the dustbin of programming languages. [Sorry, couldn't resist :-) ] Joe * see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geico