Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 08:47:14 -0400
From: Joe <dev@freedomcircle.net>
Subject: Re: We all are looped on Internet: request + transport =
	invariant
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Hi Dmitry,

On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 08:05 +0300, Dmitry Turin wrote:
> J> The average man or woman on the street
> 
> For what you say about street ?
> Average people, which you can meet on street, make physical job.

That is an American colloquialism to refer to just about anyone,
regardless of what kind of work they do.  The point is that --using the
Pareto principle-- 80% (probably much more) of the people don't know SQL
or are fluent in other programming languages, and they don't want to be
bothered with *any* of it except to use the products and services that
are made possible through them.

According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) there were
455,000 programming jobs in 2004.  Even if you raise that by an order of
magnitude you're still talking about less than 2% of the U.S.
population.  The BLS estimates there were 16,000 physicists/astronomers
and 77,0000 biological scientists.  So the software/programming and
scientist populations may be roughly comparable.  While the ratios may
be better in some other countries, I doubt that they're much off.

The bottom line is: the markets for PHP/etc. and TML are not too large,
but you seem to be having a hard time convincing those of us who've
taken even a mild interest in TML that it's really needed or is a better
solution than what exists today.

Joe