Received: from localhost (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94119FB483 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:56:23 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18186-06 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:56:18 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from smtp4.yandex.ru (smtp4.yandex.ru [213.180.223.136]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA25F9FB24B for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:56:15 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [82.209.238.118] ([82.209.238.118]:42510 "EHLO asup_tur" smtp-auth: "sql4-en" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S7768418AbXDMH4D (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:56:03 +0400 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp4.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: sql4-en Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:58:12 +0300 From: Dmitry Turin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01) Personal Reply-To: Dmitry Turin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14110647859.20070413105812@narod.ru> To: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org Subject: We all are looped on Internet: request + transport = invariant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.554 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL=-0.086, BAYES_50=0.001, URIBL_SBL=1.639 X-Spam-Level: * X-Archive-Number: 200704/139 X-Sequence-Number: 28139 Usage of database consist of request and transportation of results into visualizer. We all are looped on Internet, thus visualizer should be remoted. The most general format for data is XML. We also need to choose transport protocol: the most widespread is HTTP. SQL could send data so. Now SQL don't make this, thus we need one more language (php,etc). It's very, very bad for un-experienced user. We dream, that we simplify SQL by reject of this feature, but really we only carry un-triviality into other language. Un-triviality is saved ! But in addition to un-triviality, you have place of dock between SQL and other language. I offer the following way: http://sql40.by.ru/site/sql40/en/author/introduction_eng.htm http://sql40.by.ru/site/sql40/en/author/determination_eng.htm Representation of data as tree (instead of as matrix) is not aim itself, it's sideline-result.