From: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Message-Id: <200303101626.h2AGQ0801381@candle.pha.pa.us>
Subject: Re: Cursors and backwards scans and SCROLL
In-Reply-To: <17531.1047310893@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:26:00 -0500 (EST)
Cc: "Jeroen T. Vermeulen" <jtv@xs4all.nl>,
	pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
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Just a reminder that we could use cursors that exist after transaction
commit (WITH HOLD) and updatable cursors (WHERE CURRENT OF cursorname).  :-)

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Tom Lane wrote:
> "Jeroen T. Vermeulen" <jtv@xs4all.nl> writes:
> >> There are cases where
> >> identical cursor definitions might allow or not allow backwards fetch
> >> depending on the planner's choices.
> 
> > Would it be possible to give warnings in a narrow superset of the
> > problematic cases, something along the lines of "I'm scrolling backwards
> > for you now, but there's no reason why that should work on this same query 
> > tomorrow"?
> 
> I don't see a practical way to do that --- that little bit of warning
> code would have to embed a lot of fragile assumptions about the set of
> alternatives searched by the planner.  It would probably break every
> time we improved the planner.  And the breakage would consist either of
> failing to give a warning when one is appropriate, or giving a warning
> when no other plan is really likely to be chosen; neither of which are
> going to be easily noticed or tested for.  Seems like a losing game :-(
> 
> 			regards, tom lane
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