X-Original-To: pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org Received: from spampd.localdomain (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59295476393; Thu, 8 May 2003 00:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BC5476305; Thu, 8 May 2003 00:57:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 005C020F00; Wed, 7 May 2003 21:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 21:57:49 -0700 From: Sean Chittenden To: Tom Lane Cc: Randall Lucas , josh@agliodbs.com, Mendola Gaetano , Achilleus Mantzios , pgsql-sql@postgresql.org, pgsql-performance@postgresql.org, pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [PERFORM] [SQL] Unanswered Questions WAS: An unresolved performance problem. Message-ID: <20030508045749.GV49916@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <17063.1052367200@sss.pgh.pa.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <17063.1052367200@sss.pgh.pa.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-32.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200305/27 X-Sequence-Number: 5988 > > I suspect that a good number of fairly simple questions aren't > > being answered because they're either misdirected or because the > > poster hasn't included an "answerable" question (one with > > sufficient information to answer). > > That's always been a problem, but it does seem to have been getting > worse lately. I hate to point this out, but "TIP 4" is getting a bit old and the 6 tips that we throw out to probably about 40K people about 1-200 times a day have probably reached saturation. Without looking at the archives, I bet anyone a shot of good scotch that, it's probably pretty infrequent that people don't kill -9 their postmasters. Any chance we could flush out the TIPs at the bottom to include, "VACUUM ANALYZE your database regularly," or "When reporting a problem, include the output from EXPLAIN [query]," or "ANALYZE tables before examining the output from an EXPLAIN [query]," or "Visit [url] for a tutorial on (schemas|triggers|views)." -sc -- Sean Chittenden