X-Original-To: pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org Received: from spampd.localdomain (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4673476560 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phaedrusdeinus.org (dsl092-130-239.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.130.239]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3115E476403 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43937 invoked by uid 1001); 8 May 2003 14:47:38 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 09:47:38 -0500 From: johnnnnnn To: Sean Chittenden Cc: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org, pgsql-performance@postgresql.org, pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [PERFORM] [SQL] Unanswered Questions WAS: An unresolved performance problem. Message-ID: <20030508144738.GA18774@performics.com> References: <17063.1052367200@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20030508045749.GV49916@perrin.int.nxad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030508045749.GV49916@perrin.int.nxad.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-38.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_10,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200305/42 X-Sequence-Number: 6003 On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 09:57:49PM -0700, Sean Chittenden wrote: > I hate to point this out, but "TIP 4" is getting a bit old and the 6 > tips that we throw out to probably about 40K people about 1-200 > times a day have probably reached saturation. Without looking at > the archives, I bet anyone a shot of good scotch that, it's probably > pretty infrequent that people don't kill -9 their postmasters. > > Any chance we could flush out the TIPs at the bottom to include, > "VACUUM ANALYZE your database regularly," or "When reporting a > problem, include the output from EXPLAIN [query]," or "ANALYZE > tables before examining the output from an EXPLAIN [query]," or > "Visit [url] for a tutorial on (schemas|triggers|views)." Better yet, have TIPs that are appropriate to the subscribed list. -performance has different posting guidelines, things to try, etc. than does -bugs, than does -sql (than does -hackers, than does -interfaces, ...). I don't know how feasible it is to separate them out, but i think it's worth looking into. -johnnnnnnnnnnn