Received: from localhost (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0CA9FB586 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:53:52 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28952-09 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:53:44 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from main2.mycybernet.net (main2.mycybernet.net [209.222.63.140]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFE89FB826 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:53:48 -0300 (ADT) Received: from 227-54-222-209.mycybernet.net ([209.222.54.227] helo=phlogiston.dydns.org) by main2.mycybernet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Hh2Xe-0002Qb-RA for pgsql-sql@postgresql.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2007 07:53:42 -0400 Received: by phlogiston.dydns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6DED2404E; Thu, 26 Apr 2007 07:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 07:53:37 -0400 From: Andrew Sullivan To: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: We all are looped on Internet: request + transport = invariant Message-ID: <20070426115337.GB8769@phlogiston.dyndns.org> References: <1177072978.760.40.camel@pampa> <7939450187.20070420185808@narod.ru> <1177095450.760.71.camel@pampa> <1312216062.20070423112045@narod.ru> <1177329421.737.39.camel@pampa> <3817356375.20070424150200@narod.ru> <462DFAD4.7030001@archonet.com> <3512994062.20070425113253@narod.ru> <462F1781.4070501@archonet.com> <6012588843.20070426112830@narod.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6012588843.20070426112830@narod.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200704/265 X-Sequence-Number: 28265 On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 11:28:30AM +0300, Dmitry Turin wrote: > > Yes. > Remember, this is not manner of storing data in DBMS. > This is manner to visualize for man. So all of this sound and fury is not, as we have been understanding it, over some fundamental change to the way Pg works, but is instead some sort of veneer over the face of it? In that case, why not just write some user-space application that takes this (IMO useless) TML and translates it into proper SQL? You don't need to make any changes to Postgres at all, it seems. A -- Andrew Sullivan | ajs@crankycanuck.ca Information security isn't a technological problem. It's an economics problem. --Bruce Schneier