Received: from localhost (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058539FBE24 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 12:27:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 83452-01 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 12:27:34 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from main2.mycybernet.net (main2.mycybernet.net [209.222.63.140]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176C09FBDE0 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 12:27:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from 227-54-222-209.mycybernet.net ([209.222.54.227] helo=phlogiston.dydns.org) by main2.mycybernet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HvawV-00036C-Cd for pgsql-general@postgresql.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:27:31 -0400 Received: by phlogiston.dydns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 095B3404E; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:27:26 -0400 From: Andrew Sullivan To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Encrypted column Message-ID: <20070605152726.GU4818@phlogiston.dyndns.org> References: <46645B01.6070605@terra.com.br> <4664983F.4010700@burntmail.com> <46656398.1090203@cox.net> <20070605135951.GB8140@alvh.no-ip.org> <466572F0.3070900@cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <466572F0.3070900@cox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200706/411 X-Sequence-Number: 115234 On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:28:00AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > If he is a CC customer, the system (which I am DBA of) bills his > card directly, saving the customer much time and effort. So surely what you have is a completely separate system that has exactly one interface to it, that is signaled to provide a transaction number and that only ever returns such a transaction number to the "online" system, and that is very tightly secured, right? It is possible to make trade-offs in an intelligent manner, for sure, but you sure as heck don't want that kind of data stored online with simple reversible encryption. A -- Andrew Sullivan | ajs@crankycanuck.ca The whole tendency of modern prose is away from concreteness. --George Orwell