Received: from makus.postgresql.org (makus.postgresql.org [98.129.198.125]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B5CCE6EC for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:32:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: from adsltrust.ath.forthnet.gr ([194.219.204.174] helo=smadev.internal.net) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SfYVx-00043O-B0 for pgsql-sql@postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:32:47 +0000 Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5FFWVlO037540 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:32:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: (from achill@localhost) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q5FFWVbw037539 for pgsql-sql@postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:32:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) X-Authentication-Warning: smadev.internal.net: achill set sender to achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com using -f From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Insane behaviour in 8.3.3 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:32:31 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-RELEASE; KDE/4.7.3; amd64; ; ) References: <201206141139.35601.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <201206151124.45021.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201206151832.31759.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Archive-Number: 201206/46 X-Sequence-Number: 36700 On =CE=A0=CE=B1=CF=81 15 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=85=CE=BD 2012 18:03:26 Scott Marlo= we wrote: > Not talking about going to something after 8.3.19, just updating to > the latest 8.3 version. On most systems it's a simple: >=20 > sudo apt-get upgrade >=20 > or similar and sit back and watch. Thanx, unfortunately we dont have TCP/IP connectivity to (most of) the ship= s, and AFAIK apt-get does not yet work=20 over advanced UUCP/minicom/kermit or other equivalent hich-tech dial up con= nection. just joking :) >=20 > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Achilleas Mantzios >=20 > wrote: > > On =CE=A0=CE=B1=CF=81 15 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=85=CE=BD 2012 10:28:20 Scott M= arlowe wrote: > >> You do realize you're missing four years of bug fixes right? > >=20 > > On =CE=A0=CE=B5=CE=BC 14 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=85=CE=BD 2012 11:39:35 Achille= as Mantzios wrote: > >> Unfortunately the remote installations are neither physically accessib= le > >> nor by TCP/IP accesible (comms are done via UUCP and administration via > >> minicom, and the costs are just huge 5 USD/min for 33Kbits/sec). So, i > >> would exhaust all posibilities before deciding to ship a new postgresql > >> version there, and remotely upgrade, physically travel to the ship or > >> even trying to do a backup/initdb/restore in the existing version. Any > >> help would be really really appreciated. > >>=20 > >> Also, as you might have understood, upgrading, although generally a go= od > >> idea, does not apply so easily in our case. > >=20 > > And i forgot to mention, minicom term emulation quality sucks, even > > giving simple shell commands is a PITA, upgrading the whole fleet would > > mean bast case scenario minimum 21K USD for the whole fleet + suspension > > of all other activities for two months. If physical travel was involved, > > the cost would be increased at even higher levels. > >=20 > >=20 > > - > > Achilleas Mantzios > > IT DEPT =2D Achilleas Mantzios IT DEPT