From: Achilleas Mantzios <achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com>
Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt
To: Samuel Gendler <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>, pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Insane behaviour in 8.3.3
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:39:29 +0300
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On =CE=A3=CE=B1=CE=B2 16 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=85=CE=BD 2012 03:22:16 you wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Achilleas Mantzios <
>=20
> achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> wrote:
> > On =CE=A0=CE=B1=CF=81 15 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=85=CE=BD 2012 12:29:38 Samuel =
Gendler wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Samuel Gendler
> > >=20
> > > <sgendler@ideasculptor.com>wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Achilleas Mantzios <
> > > >=20
> > > > achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> wrote:
> > > >> And i forgot to mention, minicom term emulation quality sucks, even
> > > >> giving simple
> > > >> shell commands is a PITA, upgrading the whole fleet would mean bast
> >=20
> > case
> >=20
> > > >> scenario
> > > >> minimum 21K USD for the whole fleet + suspension of all other
> >=20
> > activities
> >=20
> > > >> for two months.
> > > >> If physical travel was involved, the cost would be increased at ev=
en
> > > >> higher levels.
> > > >=20
> > > > And what is the cost of data corruption on large numbers of systems?
> > =20
> >  And
> > =20
> > > > how much to fix that, especially if multiple systems fail at the sa=
me
> > > > time?
> > > >=20
> > > >  Some things aren't free. $21K in exchange for NOT having had to ke=
ep
> > > >=20
> > > > systems up to date for 4 years seems like a decent trade.
> > >=20
> > > Just call up an oracle sales rep and get a price quote for a single
> > > baseline system.  Put that next to the postgresql upgrade cost for yo=
ur
> > > whole fleet.
> > :
> > :) I know, I have used this argument sometimes successfully, sometimes
> > :not.
> >=20
> > The problem with oracle is not the price. The problem is that it just
> > cannot do
> > what postgresql does, or what we have managed to do ourselves with
> > postgresql.
> > Our replication system is unique, built in-house, and no commercial
> > alternative existed,
> > exists, or (most probably) will exist.
>=20
> Just to be clear, I wasn't, in any way, sugggesting you actually use
> Oracle.  I was merely suggesting that if someone is up in arms about
> upgrading multiple systems for a cost of $21K, you might show them the
> price of a single oracle license as a point of comparison.
>=20

It's ok, you were pretty clear, I was just trying to enhance/enrich our pos=
ition with more arguments ;)

> > -
> > Achilleas Mantzios
> > IT DEPT
> >=20
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