From: Achilleas Mantzios <achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com>
Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt
To: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Insane behaviour in 8.3.3
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:17:49 +0300
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We had another corruption incident on the very same machine, this time in t=
he jboss subsystem (a "jar cvf" produced corrupted .jar).
IMHO this means faulty RAM/disk.
If that is true, then i guess HW sanity checks are even more important than=
 SW upgrades.

On =CE=94=CE=B5=CF=85 18 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=85=CE=BD 2012 11:36:14 you wrote:
> Thanx, well said, and especially after this incident we should very well
> consider seriously an upgrade.
>=20
> On =CE=A0=CE=B1=CF=81 15 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=85=CE=BD 2012 19:59:05 Scott Mar=
lowe wrote:
> > Well, I'd see about finding a way to upgrade to 8.3.19.  8.3.3 has
> > know data eating bugs.
> >=20
> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Achilleas Mantzios
> >=20
> > <achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> wrote:
> > > On =CE=A0=CE=B1=CF=81 15 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=85=CE=BD 2012 18:03:26 Scott=
 Marlowe wrote:
> > >> Not talking about going to something after 8.3.19, just updating to
> > >> the latest 8.3 version.  On most systems it's a simple:
> > >>=20
> > >> sudo apt-get upgrade
> > >>=20
> > >> or similar and sit back and watch.
> > >=20
> > > Thanx, unfortunately we dont have TCP/IP connectivity to (most of) the
> > > ships, and AFAIK apt-get does not yet work over advanced
> > > UUCP/minicom/kermit or other equivalent hich-tech dial up connection.
> > > just joking :)
> > >=20
> > >> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Achilleas Mantzios
> > >>=20
> > >> <achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> wrote:
> > >> > On =CE=A0=CE=B1=CF=81 15 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=85=CE=BD 2012 10:28:20 Sc=
ott Marlowe wrote:
> > >> >> You do realize you're missing four years of bug fixes right?
> > >> >=20
> > >> > On =CE=A0=CE=B5=CE=BC 14 =CE=99=CE=BF=CF=85=CE=BD 2012 11:39:35 Ac=
hilleas Mantzios wrote:
> > >> >> Unfortunately the remote installations are neither physically
> > >> >> accessible nor by TCP/IP accesible (comms are done via UUCP and
> > >> >> administration via minicom, and the costs are just huge 5 USD/min
> > >> >> for 33Kbits/sec). So, i would exhaust all posibilities before
> > >> >> deciding to ship a new postgresql version there, and remotely
> > >> >> upgrade, physically travel to the ship or even trying to do a
> > >> >> backup/initdb/restore in the existing version. Any help would be
> > >> >> really really appreciated.
> > >> >>=20
> > >> >> Also, as you might have understood, upgrading, although generally=
 a
> > >> >> good idea, does not apply so easily in our case.
> > >> >=20
> > >> > And i forgot to mention, minicom term emulation quality sucks, even
> > >> > giving simple shell commands is a PITA, upgrading the whole fleet
> > >> > would mean bast case scenario minimum 21K USD for the whole fleet +
> > >> > suspension of all other activities for two months. If physical
> > >> > travel was involved, the cost would be increased at even higher
> > >> > levels.
> > >> >=20
> > >> >=20
> > >> > -
> > >> > Achilleas Mantzios
> > >> > IT DEPT
> > >=20
> > > -
> > > Achilleas Mantzios
> > > IT DEPT
> > >=20
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