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* session variable
@ 2003-09-01 14:11  sad <sad@bankir.ru>
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From: sad @ 2003-09-01 14:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org

Good day

is it possible to define user variables in session ?
If not then is it planned to implement ?
or it is principially impossible in PosqtgreSQL




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* Re: session variable
@ 2003-09-01 16:57  Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
  parent: sad <sad@bankir.ru>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2003-09-01 16:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sad <sad@bankir.ru>; +Cc: pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org

sad wrote:
> Good day
> 
> is it possible to define user variables in session ?
> If not then is it planned to implement ?
> or it is principially impossible in PosqtgreSQL

psql has variables, but in general we don't support session varibles. 
You could create a temp table and put a value in there easily.

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* Re: session variable
@ 2003-09-02 01:28  Bupp Phillips <hello@noname.com>
  parent: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Bupp Phillips @ 2003-09-02 01:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org

Could you possible have some type of  variable (preferably the Transaction
ID) that can identify an individual process?

If something like this already exist, then disregard this post.

"Bruce Momjian" <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> wrote in message
news:200309011657.h81Gva817128@candle.pha.pa.us...
> sad wrote:
> > Good day
> >
> > is it possible to define user variables in session ?
> > If not then is it planned to implement ?
> > or it is principially impossible in PosqtgreSQL
>
> psql has variables, but in general we don't support session varibles.
> You could create a temp table and put a value in there easily.
>
> -- 
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* Re: session variable
@ 2003-09-02 12:29  sad <sad@bankir.ru>
  parent: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: sad @ 2003-09-02 12:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org

On Monday 01 September 2003 20:57, you wrote:
> sad wrote:
> > Good day
> >
> > is it possible to define user variables in session ?
> > If not then is it planned to implement ?
> > or it is principially impossible in PosqtgreSQL
>
> psql has variables, but in general we don't support session varibles.
> You could create a temp table and put a value in there easily.

that's ok, unless i need to access it in a trigger.

where may i ask a programming and perfomance question?
i think mailing such questions to "BUGS" is not a good idea. 




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* Re: session variable
@ 2003-09-02 12:40  Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de>
  parent: sad <sad@bankir.ru>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Andreas Pflug @ 2003-09-02 12:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sad <sad@bankir.ru>; +Cc: pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org

sad wrote:

>>>is it possible to define user variables in session ?
>>>If not then is it planned to implement ?
>>>or it is principially impossible in PosqtgreSQL
>>>      
>>>
>>psql has variables, but in general we don't support session varibles.
>>You could create a temp table and put a value in there easily.
>>    
>>
>
>that's ok, unless i need to access it in a trigger.
>
No problem to use  a temp table in a trigger (which is local to the 
session), I do so myself. Still, session variables would be nice, making 
coding a little bit more comfortable.

>
>where may i ask a programming and perfomance question?
>i think mailing such questions to "BUGS" is not a good idea. 
>
Just use the pgsql-sql and pgsql-performance mailing lists.


Regards,
Andreas





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* Re: [BUGS] session variable
@ 2003-09-02 13:13  sad <sad@bankir.ru>
  parent: Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: sad @ 2003-09-02 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-sql

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 16:40, you wrote:

> No problem to use  a temp table in a trigger (which is local to the
> session), I do so myself. Still, session variables would be nice, making
> coding a little bit more comfortable.

(it would be very good if you implement session variables in PostgreSQL.)

The first problem using temp table is:

CREATE TABLE locals (name text, value text);

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION test_locals_access() RETURNS text AS '
DECLARE i text;
BEGIN
SELECT value INTO i FROM locals WHERE name=''n1''
RETURN i;
END;
' LANGUAGE 'plpgsql';

SELECT test_locals_access() ;

column
-------------
<null>

CREATE TEMP TABLE locals (name text, value text);
INSERT INTO locals VALUES ('n1','xxx');

SELECT test_locals_access() ;

column
-------------
<null>                   <=== the Function seing global table

SELECT value FROM locals WHERE name='n1';

value
---------
xxx



the second problem may be resolved with your advise.
look:

i want to log operations on the data in some tables.
so i declared sufficient triggers which write to the log-table.

and now i want to mark each log-record with the "operator_id"
(e.g. to log who made an update)

what possible ways are there ?

if i use temp table to inform the triggers about "operator_id"
then i have problems in manual updates of these tables
(temp table in my session needed too)





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* Re: session variable
@ 2003-09-02 22:51  Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de>
  parent: Bupp Phillips <hello@noname.com>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Andreas Pflug @ 2003-09-02 22:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bupp Phillips <hello@noname.com>; +Cc: pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org

Bupp Phillips wrote:

>Could you possible have some type of  variable (preferably the Transaction
>ID) that can identify an individual process?
>

There's pg_backend_pid() for 7.4 and backend_pid() as contrib module for 
earlier releases.

Regards,
Andreas





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* Re: [BUGS] session variable
@ 2003-09-03 17:40  Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
  parent: sad <sad@bankir.ru>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2003-09-03 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sad <sad@bankir.ru>; +Cc: pgsql-sql

sad writes:

> The first problem using temp table is:
>
> CREATE TABLE locals (name text, value text);
>
> CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION test_locals_access() RETURNS text AS '
> DECLARE i text;
> BEGIN
> SELECT value INTO i FROM locals WHERE name=''n1''
> RETURN i;
> END;
> ' LANGUAGE 'plpgsql';
>
> SELECT test_locals_access() ;
>
> column
> -------------
> <null>
>
> CREATE TEMP TABLE locals (name text, value text);
> INSERT INTO locals VALUES ('n1','xxx');
>
> SELECT test_locals_access() ;
>
> column
> -------------
> <null>                   <=== the Function seing global table

This is a problem in plpgsql, not in temporary tables.

> the second problem may be resolved with your advise.
> look:
>
> i want to log operations on the data in some tables.
> so i declared sufficient triggers which write to the log-table.
>
> and now i want to mark each log-record with the "operator_id"
> (e.g. to log who made an update)
>
> what possible ways are there ?
>
> if i use temp table to inform the triggers about "operator_id"
> then i have problems in manual updates of these tables
> (temp table in my session needed too)

Use session_user, or restrict permissions on the temporary table.

-- 
Peter Eisentraut   peter_e@gmx.net




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* Re: session variable
@ 2003-09-03 17:55  Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
  parent: sad <sad@bankir.ru>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2003-09-03 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sad <sad@bankir.ru>; +Cc: pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org

sad wrote:
> On Monday 01 September 2003 20:57, you wrote:
> > sad wrote:
> > > Good day
> > >
> > > is it possible to define user variables in session ?
> > > If not then is it planned to implement ?
> > > or it is principially impossible in PosqtgreSQL
> >
> > psql has variables, but in general we don't support session varibles.
> > You could create a temp table and put a value in there easily.
> 
> that's ok, unless i need to access it in a trigger.

Why can't you grab it out of the temp table from the trigger?

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  pgman@candle.pha.pa.us               |  (610) 359-1001
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* Re: [BUGS] session variable
@ 2003-09-03 20:42  Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
  parent: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2003-09-03 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>; +Cc: sad <sad@bankir.ru>; pgsql-sql

Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> sad writes:
> 
> > The first problem using temp table is:
> >
> > CREATE TABLE locals (name text, value text);
> >
> > CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION test_locals_access() RETURNS text AS '
> > DECLARE i text;
> > BEGIN
> > SELECT value INTO i FROM locals WHERE name=''n1''
> > RETURN i;
> > END;
> > ' LANGUAGE 'plpgsql';
> >
> > SELECT test_locals_access() ;
> >
> > column
> > -------------
> > <null>
> >
> > CREATE TEMP TABLE locals (name text, value text);
> > INSERT INTO locals VALUES ('n1','xxx');
> >
> > SELECT test_locals_access() ;
> >
> > column
> > -------------
> > <null>                   <=== the Function seing global table
> 
> This is a problem in plpgsql, not in temporary tables.

Yes, see the FAQ.  You have to use EXECUTE for temp table access in
functions.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian                        |  http://candle.pha.pa.us
  pgman@candle.pha.pa.us               |  (610) 359-1001
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* Re: [BUGS] session variable
@ 2003-09-13 18:23  Miko O'Sullivan <miko@idocs.com>
  parent: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: miko@idocs.com @ 2003-09-13 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-sql

pgman@candle.pha.pa.us (Bruce Momjian) wrote in message news:<200309032042.h83KgmJ24665@candle.pha.pa.us>...
> Yes, see the FAQ.  You have to use EXECUTE for temp table access in
> functions.

Unfortunately in the 7.2.x version I have available, EXECUTE does not
allow "select into".  The docs suggests a technique for using a FOR
loop to extract information from an EXECUTE, but the technique only
works for finite set of expected variables, not for arbitrary values.

Any suggestions on how to kludge this issue?  It would be of great
value to me if there were a way to set and retrieve just one global
variable that persists throughout a session, and which can be
retrieved from a function.



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* Re: [BUGS] session variable
@ 2003-09-17 21:23  Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  parent: Miko O'Sullivan <miko@idocs.com>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Tom Lane @ 2003-09-17 21:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: miko@idocs.com; +Cc: pgsql-sql

miko@idocs.com (Miko O'Sullivan) writes:
> Unfortunately in the 7.2.x version I have available, EXECUTE does not
> allow "select into".  The docs suggests a technique for using a FOR
> loop to extract information from an EXECUTE, but the technique only
> works for finite set of expected variables, not for arbitrary values.

How do you figure that?  AFAICS "FOR" with a record variable as target
will cover any case that SELECT INTO could handle.

			regards, tom lane



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