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@ 2006-04-20 03:32 Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>
2006-04-20 06:08 ` Re: Field length ?? Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>
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From: Louise Catherine @ 2006-04-20 03:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-sql
I've this table :
create table test(]
satu char(10),
dua char(5)
);
How could I get the Field length not the Data length ?
Thanks,
Rina
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* Re: Field length ??
2006-04-20 03:32 Field length ?? Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>
@ 2006-04-20 06:08 ` Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>
2006-04-20 09:16 ` Re: Field length ?? Markus Schaber <schabi@logix-tt.com>
2006-04-20 15:21 ` Re: Field length ?? Frank Bax <fbax@sympatico.ca>
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From: Louise Catherine @ 2006-04-20 06:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-sql
Hi ,
With this table :
create table test(
satu char(10),
dua char(5)
);
To get the field length, I use this query:
select atttypmod from pg_attribute where
attname='satu' and
attrelid=(select oid from pg_class where relname='test');
---> result 1 : 14
select atttypmod from pg_attribute where
attname='dua' and
attrelid=(select oid from pg_class where relname='test');
---> result 2 : 9
Could anyone explain, why the field length must be add by 4 :
result 1 : 10 + 4 =14
result 2 : 5 + 4 = 9
Could I use this query ? Is it valid?
select atttypmod-4 from pg_attribute where
attname='satu' and
attrelid=(select oid from pg_class where relname='test');
Thank's,
Rina
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* Re: Field length ??
2006-04-20 03:32 Field length ?? Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>
2006-04-20 06:08 ` Re: Field length ?? Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>
@ 2006-04-20 09:16 ` Markus Schaber <schabi@logix-tt.com>
2006-04-20 14:27 ` Re: Field length ?? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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From: Markus Schaber @ 2006-04-20 09:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>; +Cc: pgsql-sql
Hi, Louise,
Louise Catherine wrote:
> Could anyone explain, why the field length must be add by 4 :
> result 1 : 10 + 4 =14
> result 2 : 5 + 4 = 9
I guess that it is because all variable length datatypes (and text types
are such) internally contain a 4 bytes length field.
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/interactive/xtypes.html might be a
start if you want to read more on this topic.
HTH,
Markus
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* Re: Field length ??
2006-04-20 03:32 Field length ?? Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>
2006-04-20 06:08 ` Re: Field length ?? Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>
2006-04-20 09:16 ` Re: Field length ?? Markus Schaber <schabi@logix-tt.com>
@ 2006-04-20 14:27 ` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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From: Tom Lane @ 2006-04-20 14:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Schaber <schabi@logix-tt.com>; +Cc: Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>; pgsql-sql
Markus Schaber <schabi@logix-tt.com> writes:
> Louise Catherine wrote:
>> Could anyone explain, why the field length must be add by 4 :
> I guess that it is because all variable length datatypes (and text types
> are such) internally contain a 4 bytes length field.
It's an ancient decision that no longer has much of anything to do with
reality, but changing it would break more code than it's worth to have
a slightly cleaner definition of atttypmod ...
regards, tom lane
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* Re: Field length ??
2006-04-20 03:32 Field length ?? Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>
2006-04-20 06:08 ` Re: Field length ?? Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>
@ 2006-04-20 15:21 ` Frank Bax <fbax@sympatico.ca>
2006-04-20 15:36 ` Re: Field length ?? Markus Schaber <schabi@logix-tt.com>
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From: Frank Bax @ 2006-04-20 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-sql
At 05:16 AM 4/20/06, Markus Schaber wrote:
>Hi, Louise,
>
>Louise Catherine wrote:
>
> > Could anyone explain, why the field length must be add by 4 :
> > result 1 : 10 + 4 =14
> > result 2 : 5 + 4 = 9
>
>I guess that it is because all variable length datatypes (and text types
>are such) internally contain a 4 bytes length field.
Except that the original fields were neither variable length datatypes, not
type text.
create table test(]
satu char(10),
dua char(5)
);
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* Re: Field length ??
2006-04-20 03:32 Field length ?? Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>
2006-04-20 06:08 ` Re: Field length ?? Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>
2006-04-20 15:21 ` Re: Field length ?? Frank Bax <fbax@sympatico.ca>
@ 2006-04-20 15:36 ` Markus Schaber <schabi@logix-tt.com>
2006-04-20 15:44 ` Re: Field length ?? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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From: Markus Schaber @ 2006-04-20 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Frank Bax <fbax@sympatico.ca>; +Cc: pgsql-sql
Hi, Frank,
Frank Bax wrote:
> Except that the original fields were neither variable length datatypes,
> not type text.
> create table test(]
> satu char(10),
> dua char(5)
> );
char is a textual type (in opposite to numeric types), and they are
handled as variable length datatypes internally (even if given a limit).
See http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/datatype-character.html
HTH,
Markus
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Dipl. Inf. | Software Development GIS
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* Re: Field length ??
2006-04-20 03:32 Field length ?? Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>
2006-04-20 06:08 ` Re: Field length ?? Louise Catherine <r1c4n@yahoo.com>
2006-04-20 15:21 ` Re: Field length ?? Frank Bax <fbax@sympatico.ca>
2006-04-20 15:36 ` Re: Field length ?? Markus Schaber <schabi@logix-tt.com>
@ 2006-04-20 15:44 ` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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From: Tom Lane @ 2006-04-20 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Schaber <schabi@logix-tt.com>; +Cc: Frank Bax <fbax@sympatico.ca>; pgsql-sql
Markus Schaber <schabi@logix-tt.com> writes:
> Frank Bax wrote:
>> Except that the original fields were neither variable length datatypes,
>> not type text.
> char is a textual type (in opposite to numeric types), and they are
> handled as variable length datatypes internally (even if given a limit).
char(n) *is* a variable-length type, not merely "handled as such",
because the limit N is measured in characters not bytes. To support
variable-length encodings such as UTF8 we have to treat it as variable
length.
regards, tom lane
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