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* PL/SQL Function: self-contained transaction?
@ 2005-08-22 17:16 Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@postgresql.org>
2005-08-22 18:15 ` Re: PL/SQL Function: self-contained transaction? A. Kretschmer <akretschmer@despammed.com>
2005-08-22 18:20 ` Re: PL/SQL Function: self-contained transaction? Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
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From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2005-08-22 17:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-sql
In PostgreSQL, as everyone knows, a QUERY == a transaction, unless wrap'd
in a BEGIN/END explicitly ... how does that work with a function? is
there an implicit BEGIN/END around the whole transaction, or each QUERY
within the function itself?
If the whole function (and all QUERYs inside of it) are considered one
transaction, can you do a begin/end within the function itself to 'force'
commit on a specific part of the function?
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* Re: PL/SQL Function: self-contained transaction?
2005-08-22 17:16 PL/SQL Function: self-contained transaction? Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@postgresql.org>
@ 2005-08-22 18:15 ` A. Kretschmer <akretschmer@despammed.com>
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From: A. Kretschmer @ 2005-08-22 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-sql
am 22.08.2005, um 14:16:30 -0300 mailte Marc G. Fournier folgendes:
>
> In PostgreSQL, as everyone knows, a QUERY == a transaction, unless wrap'd
> in a BEGIN/END explicitly ... how does that work with a function? is there
> an implicit BEGIN/END around the whole transaction, or each QUERY within
> the function itself?
>
> If the whole function (and all QUERYs inside of it) are considered one
> transaction,
Yes, exactly.
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* Re: PL/SQL Function: self-contained transaction?
2005-08-22 17:16 PL/SQL Function: self-contained transaction? Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@postgresql.org>
@ 2005-08-22 18:20 ` Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
2005-08-22 19:52 ` Re: PL/SQL Function: self-contained transaction? Richard_D_Levine@raytheon.com
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From: Greg Stark @ 2005-08-22 18:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@postgresql.org>; +Cc: pgsql-sql
"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org> writes:
> In PostgreSQL, as everyone knows, a QUERY == a transaction, unless wrap'd in a
> BEGIN/END explicitly ... how does that work with a function? is there an
> implicit BEGIN/END around the whole transaction, or each QUERY within the
> function itself?
The whole outer query issued from your frontend is in one transaction.
> If the whole function (and all QUERYs inside of it) are considered one
> transaction, can you do a begin/end within the function itself to 'force'
> commit on a specific part of the function?
Functions cannot issue start or end transactions. They're a creature of the
transaction you're in when you call them. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense to
be able to call them from within a query.
There is some discussion of "stored procedures" which would live outside of
transactions and be able to create transactions, commit, and roll them back.
But I don't think any of that work is committed yet. I'm not even sure it's
been written yet.
--
greg
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* Re: PL/SQL Function: self-contained transaction?
2005-08-22 17:16 PL/SQL Function: self-contained transaction? Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@postgresql.org>
2005-08-22 18:20 ` Re: PL/SQL Function: self-contained transaction? Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
@ 2005-08-22 19:52 ` Richard_D_Levine@raytheon.com
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From: Richard_D_Levine@raytheon.com @ 2005-08-22 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-sql
I think the Enterprise DB folks are actively working it. I don't know what
their plans to release their work back to the community are.
Mail thread:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2005-08/msg00582.php
Article: http://oetrends.com/news.php?action=view_record&idnum=428
Home: http://www.enterprisedb.com
Rick
pgsql-sql-owner@postgresql.org wrote on 08/22/2005 01:20:00 PM:
>
> "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org> writes:
>
> > In PostgreSQL, as everyone knows, a QUERY == a transaction, unless
> wrap'd in a
> > BEGIN/END explicitly ... how does that work with a function? is there
an
> > implicit BEGIN/END around the whole transaction, or each QUERY within
the
> > function itself?
>
> The whole outer query issued from your frontend is in one transaction.
>
> > If the whole function (and all QUERYs inside of it) are considered one
> > transaction, can you do a begin/end within the function itself to
'force'
> > commit on a specific part of the function?
>
> Functions cannot issue start or end transactions. They're a creature of
the
> transaction you're in when you call them. Otherwise it wouldn't make
sense to
> be able to call them from within a query.
>
> There is some discussion of "stored procedures" which would live outside
of
> transactions and be able to create transactions, commit, and roll them
back.
> But I don't think any of that work is committed yet. I'm not even sure
it's
> been written yet.
>
> --
> greg
>
>
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