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Katz" Cc: pgsql-sql@lists.postgresql.org References: <8797d58a-9ad5-b78d-4a2a-c31a93dfcd5d@jfcomputer.com> <32566AC9-5567-4CAC-BE2B-5D990DB2B3A2@excoventures.com> From: john fabiani Message-ID: <9c24b3cb-ea4f-f707-66fc-dcb459c0445e@jfcomputer.com> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 17:23:29 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <32566AC9-5567-4CAC-BE2B-5D990DB2B3A2@excoventures.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080A2D86A9076E4AFE0C6C9F" Content-Language: en-US List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080A2D86A9076E4AFE0C6C9F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes I'm sure that's true.  That said, I believe they just going the wrong way with their development.  It's  my understanding I'm not the only  one complaining.  I am also sure there are many who like the direction they are going - I'm just not one of them.  I guess this is one of those situations were you like it a lot or you hate it. Johnf On 02/01/2019 03:41 PM, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > >> On Feb 1, 2019, at 2:11 PM, john fabiani > > wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Off Topic: >> >> I primarily use Linux as my development platform (current using >> OpenSuse 15.x).  I have used PgAdmin for years to administrate the >> database.  But PgAdmin4 is now the replacement to version 3 and I >> think it sucks! > > I’m sure the people who work on pgAdmin4 would like to hear about your > experience to better understand why you think “it sucks” and perhaps > provide some pointers or use the feedback to continue to improve pgAdmin4. > > Information about getting in touch with the pgAdmin team can be found > here: > > https://www.pgadmin.org/support/ > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > --------------080A2D86A9076E4AFE0C6C9F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes I'm sure that's true.  That said, I believe they just going the wrong way with their development.  It's  my understanding I'm not the only  one complaining.  I am also sure there are many who like the direction they are going - I'm just not one of them.  I guess this is one of those situations were you like it a lot or you hate it.

Johnf 


On 02/01/2019 03:41 PM, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:

On Feb 1, 2019, at 2:11 PM, john fabiani <johnf@jfcomputer.com> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Off Topic:

I primarily use Linux as my development platform (current using OpenSuse 15.x).  I have used PgAdmin for years to administrate the database.  But PgAdmin4 is now the replacement to version 3 and I think it sucks!

I’m sure the people who work on pgAdmin4 would like to hear about your
experience to better understand why you think “it sucks” and perhaps
provide some pointers or use the feedback to continue to improve pgAdmin4.

Information about getting in touch with the pgAdmin team can be found here:


Thanks,

Jonathan


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