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* PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue
@ 2017-05-13 13:11 Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 13:25 ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread

From: Ashish Tiwari @ 2017-05-13 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; pgsql-sql

Hi Team,

Our team has done some activity but they didn't take the backup before
activity .it was setting of replication.The Pg data has been kept secure.

Now when initializaing the DB getting the error as below.

The database cluster was initialized with PG_CONTROL_VERSION 922, but the
server was compiled with PG_CONTROL_VERSION 937.

Any solution if DB can be upgraded from 9.2 to 9.3.

Any suggestions are welcome


Thanks.

Best regards,
Ashish

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* Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue
  2017-05-13 13:11 PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
@ 2017-05-13 13:25 ` Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 13:41   ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread

From: Adrian Klaver @ 2017-05-13 13:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>; pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; pgsql-sql

On 05/13/2017 06:11 AM, Ashish Tiwari wrote:
> Hi Team,
> 
> Our team has done some activity but they didn't take the backup before 
> activity .it was setting of replication.The Pg data has been kept secure.

What data, a dump file or the data directory?

What do you mean by setting of replication?

> 
> Now when initializaing the DB getting the error as below.

So you ran initdb to create a cluster?

Or did you do something else?

> 
> The database cluster was initialized with PG_CONTROL_VERSION 922, but 
> the server was compiled with PG_CONTROL_VERSION 937.

The above would seem to indicate you tried to start a Postgres 9.3 
server using a Postgres 9.2 data directory.

> 
> Any solution if DB can be upgraded from 9.2 to 9.3.

You are trying to upgrade from Postgres 9.2 to 9.3?

How was Postgres installed?

What OS and version?

> 
> Any suggestions are welcome
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Best regards,
> Ashish


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* Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue
  2017-05-13 13:11 PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 13:25 ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
@ 2017-05-13 13:41   ` Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 14:00     ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread

From: Ashish Tiwari @ 2017-05-13 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>; +Cc: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; pgsql-sql

Hi Adrian,

Please find the in line answers.

Thanks.

On May 13, 2017 18:55, "Adrian Klaver" <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wrote:

On 05/13/2017 06:11 AM, Ashish Tiwari wrote:

> Hi Team,
>
> Our team has done some activity but they didn't take the backup before
> activity .it was setting of replication.The Pg data has been kept secure.
>

What data, a dump file or the data directory?


Pgsql/9.3/main

What do you mean by setting of replication?

Enabling the Archive and WAL setting.

>
> Now when initializaing the DB getting the error as below.
>

So you ran initdb to create a cluster?

Yes  ..


Or did you do something else?



> The database cluster was initialized with PG_CONTROL_VERSION 922, but the
> server was compiled with PG_CONTROL_VERSION 937.
>

The above would seem to indicate you tried to start a Postgres 9.3 server
using a Postgres 9.2 data directory.


Yes.it seems right.




> Any solution if DB can be upgraded from 9.2 to 9.3.
>

You are trying to upgrade from Postgres 9.2 to 9.3?

How was Postgres installed?


Sudo apt-get install


What OS and version?

Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

>
> Any suggestions are welcome
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best regards,
> Ashish
>


-- 
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adrian.klaver@aklaver.com

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* Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue
  2017-05-13 13:11 PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 13:25 ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 13:41   ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
@ 2017-05-13 14:00     ` Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 14:58       ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread

From: Adrian Klaver @ 2017-05-13 14:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>; +Cc: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; pgsql-sql

On 05/13/2017 06:41 AM, Ashish Tiwari wrote:
> Hi Adrian,
> 
> Please find the in line answers.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On May 13, 2017 18:55, "Adrian Klaver" <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com 
> <mailto:adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 05/13/2017 06:11 AM, Ashish Tiwari wrote:

> 
>     What data, a dump file or the data directory?
> 
> 
> Pgsql/9.3/main

So you are using the deb packages. The above is for the Postgres 9.3 
cluster, where is the data from the Postgres 9.2 cluster?

> 
>     What do you mean by setting of replication?
> 
>     Enabling the Archive and WAL setting.

So was this done before the upgrade, during, after?
I am just not seeing the connection to the error you reported.

> 
> 
>         Now when initializaing the DB getting the error as below.
> 
> 
>     So you ran initdb to create a cluster >
>     Yes  ..

What was the exact command you used.

> 
> 

> 
> 
>         The database cluster was initialized with PG_CONTROL_VERSION
>         922, but the server was compiled with PG_CONTROL_VERSION 937.
> 
> 
>     The above would seem to indicate you tried to start a Postgres 9.3
>     server using a Postgres 9.2 data directory.
> 
> 
> Yes.it seems right.

That is not possible as you found out. When doing an upgrade between 
major versions(see note below) in Postgres you either have to dump the 
data from the older version and restore it to the new version or you 
need to use pg_upgrade.

*NOTE* Up to Postgres version 9.6.x a major version change was a change 
in either of the first two numbers. Starting with the next release 
(10.x) only the first number is a major version.


At this point you should have two Postgres clusters on you machine, 
Something like:

/var/lib/postgresql/9.2/main/

/var/lib/postgresql/9.3/main/

Is this correct?


> 
> 
> 
> 
>         Any solution if DB can be upgraded from 9.2 to 9.3.
> 
> 
>     You are trying to upgrade from Postgres 9.2 to 9.3?
> 
>     How was Postgres installed?
> 
> 
> Sudo apt-get install
> 
> 
>     What OS and version?
> 
>     Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
> 

> 
> 
>         Thanks.
> 
>         Best regards,
>         Ashish
> 


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* Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue
  2017-05-13 13:11 PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 13:25 ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 13:41   ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 14:00     ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
@ 2017-05-13 14:58       ` Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 15:53         ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread

From: Ashish Tiwari @ 2017-05-13 14:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>; +Cc: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; pgsql-sql

Hi Adrian,

Please find the in line answers.

Thanks.

On May 13, 2017 7:30 PM, "Adrian Klaver" <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wrote:

On 05/13/2017 06:41 AM, Ashish Tiwari wrote:

> Hi Adrian,
>
> Please find the in line answers.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On May 13, 2017 18:55, "Adrian Klaver" <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com <mailto:
> adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 05/13/2017 06:11 AM, Ashish Tiwari wrote:
>


>     What data, a dump file or the data directory?
>
>
> Pgsql/9.3/main
>

So you are using the deb packages. The above is for the Postgres 9.3
cluster, where is the data from the Postgres 9.2 cluster?


The person was doing the activity did not check the varsion.
>

    What do you mean by setting of replication?
>
>     Enabling the Archive and WAL setting.
>

So was this done before the upgrade, during, after?
I am just not seeing the connection to the error you reported.

----It was done before upgrade.
>
>         Now when initializaing the DB getting the error as below.
>
>
>     So you ran initdb to create a cluster >
>     Yes  ..
>

What was the exact command you used.

----Calling bin $./initdb  -D /pgsql/9.3/main/data

>
>
>

>
>         The database cluster was initialized with PG_CONTROL_VERSION
>         922, but the server was compiled with PG_CONTROL_VERSION 937.
>
>
>     The above would seem to indicate you tried to start a Postgres 9.3
>     server using a Postgres 9.2 data directory.
>
>
> Yes.it seems right.
>

That is not possible as you found out. When doing an upgrade between major
versions(see note below) in Postgres you either have to dump the data from
the older version and restore it to the new version or you need to use
pg_upgrade.

*NOTE* Up to Postgres version 9.6.x a major version change was a change in
either of the first two numbers. Starting with the next release (10.x) only
the first number is a major version.


At this point you should have two Postgres clusters on you machine,
Something like:

/var/lib/postgresql/9.2/main/

/var/lib/postgresql/9.3/main/

Is this correct?

Only /var/lib/Postgresql/9.3/main


9.2 is uninstalled now.

Currently we have only 9.3 version.

>
>
>
>
>         Any solution if DB can be upgraded from 9.2 to 9.3.
>
>
>     You are trying to upgrade from Postgres 9.2 to 9.3?
>
>     How was Postgres installed?
>
>
> Sudo apt-get install
>
>
>     What OS and version?
>
>     Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
>
>

>
>         Thanks.
>
>         Best regards,
>         Ashish
>
>

-- 
Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com

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* Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue
  2017-05-13 13:11 PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 13:25 ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 13:41   ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 14:00     ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 14:58       ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
@ 2017-05-13 15:53         ` Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 16:44           ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread

From: Ashish Tiwari @ 2017-05-13 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>; +Cc: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; pgsql-sql

Hi Andrian,

The data have kept separate as in

/pgsql/data2 directory.

We are passing this path while starting the server using pg-ctl from bin
directory as well this data path is given in to postgresql.conf .

So in current situation the binary is as of 9.3 and data is as of 9.2

As an alternative can we install the 9.2 and manually make the up DB is it
possible Or data is lost ?. finally

Thanks.
BR,Ashish

On May 13, 2017 8:28 PM, "Ashish Tiwari" <tashish786@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Adrian,
>
> Please find the in line answers.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On May 13, 2017 7:30 PM, "Adrian Klaver" <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
> wrote:
>
> On 05/13/2017 06:41 AM, Ashish Tiwari wrote:
>
>> Hi Adrian,
>>
>> Please find the in line answers.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On May 13, 2017 18:55, "Adrian Klaver" <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
>> <mailto:adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 05/13/2017 06:11 AM, Ashish Tiwari wrote:
>>
>
>
>>     What data, a dump file or the data directory?
>>
>>
>> Pgsql/9.3/main
>>
>
> So you are using the deb packages. The above is for the Postgres 9.3
> cluster, where is the data from the Postgres 9.2 cluster?
>
>
> The person was doing the activity did not check the varsion.
>>
>
>     What do you mean by setting of replication?
>>
>>     Enabling the Archive and WAL setting.
>>
>
> So was this done before the upgrade, during, after?
> I am just not seeing the connection to the error you reported.
>
> ----It was done before upgrade.
>>
>>         Now when initializaing the DB getting the error as below.
>>
>>
>>     So you ran initdb to create a cluster >
>>     Yes  ..
>>
>
> What was the exact command you used.
>
> ----Calling bin $./initdb  -D /pgsql/9.3/main/data
>
>>
>>
>>
>
>>
>>         The database cluster was initialized with PG_CONTROL_VERSION
>>         922, but the server was compiled with PG_CONTROL_VERSION 937.
>>
>>
>>     The above would seem to indicate you tried to start a Postgres 9.3
>>     server using a Postgres 9.2 data directory.
>>
>>
>> Yes.it seems right.
>>
>
> That is not possible as you found out. When doing an upgrade between major
> versions(see note below) in Postgres you either have to dump the data from
> the older version and restore it to the new version or you need to use
> pg_upgrade.
>
> *NOTE* Up to Postgres version 9.6.x a major version change was a change in
> either of the first two numbers. Starting with the next release (10.x) only
> the first number is a major version.
>
>
> At this point you should have two Postgres clusters on you machine,
> Something like:
>
> /var/lib/postgresql/9.2/main/
>
> /var/lib/postgresql/9.3/main/
>
> Is this correct?
>
> Only /var/lib/Postgresql/9.3/main
>
>
> 9.2 is uninstalled now.
>
> Currently we have only 9.3 version.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Any solution if DB can be upgraded from 9.2 to 9.3.
>>
>>
>>     You are trying to upgrade from Postgres 9.2 to 9.3?
>>
>>     How was Postgres installed?
>>
>>
>> Sudo apt-get install
>>
>>
>>     What OS and version?
>>
>>     Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
>>
>>
>
>>
>>         Thanks.
>>
>>         Best regards,
>>         Ashish
>>
>>
>
> --
> Adrian Klaver
> adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
>
>
>

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* Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue
  2017-05-13 13:11 PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 13:25 ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 13:41   ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 14:00     ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 14:58       ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 15:53         ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
@ 2017-05-13 16:44           ` Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 16:49             ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 21:50             ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Steve Midgley <science@misuse.org>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread

From: Adrian Klaver @ 2017-05-13 16:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>; +Cc: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; pgsql-sql

On 05/13/2017 08:53 AM, Ashish Tiwari wrote:
> Hi Andrian,
> 
> The data have kept separate as in
> 
> /pgsql/data2 directory.
> 
> We are passing this path while starting the server using pg-ctl from bin 
> directory as well this data path is given in to postgresql.conf .
> 
> So in current situation the binary is as of 9.3 and data is as of 9.2
> 
> As an alternative can we install the 9.2 and manually make the up DB is 
> it possible Or data is lost ?. finally

If  /pgsql/data2 represents the Postgres 9.2 data directory then the 
data is not lost.

I am including information from your previous post in the below.

 > $./initdb  -D /pgsql/9.3/main/data

Are you overriding the default location that Debian uses?:

https://wiki.debian.org/PostgreSql

I would look at the above to see how you can use the Debian tools to 
maintain/create multiple Postgres clusters.


 > 9.2 is uninstalled now.

You will need to install it again to be able to access the data in the 
9.2 data directory you show above(/pgsql/data2). I would maintain that 
copy(/pgsql/data2) and just copy it into the 9.2 cluster when you get it 
reinstalled. If you want to upgrade to 9.3, then use the 9.3 pg_dumpall 
to dump the 9.2 data and then the 9.3 pg_restore to restore it into the 
9.3 instance.


> 
> Thanks.
> BR,Ashish
> 



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* Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue
  2017-05-13 13:11 PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 13:25 ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 13:41   ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 14:00     ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 14:58       ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 15:53         ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 16:44           ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
@ 2017-05-13 16:49             ` Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread

From: Ashish Tiwari @ 2017-05-13 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>; +Cc: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; pgsql-sql

Thank you Andrian.

I shall try this and will get back on Monday.

Thanks.
BR,Ashish

On May 13, 2017 22:14, "Adrian Klaver" <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wrote:

> On 05/13/2017 08:53 AM, Ashish Tiwari wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrian,
>>
>> The data have kept separate as in
>>
>> /pgsql/data2 directory.
>>
>> We are passing this path while starting the server using pg-ctl from bin
>> directory as well this data path is given in to postgresql.conf .
>>
>> So in current situation the binary is as of 9.3 and data is as of 9.2
>>
>> As an alternative can we install the 9.2 and manually make the up DB is
>> it possible Or data is lost ?. finally
>>
>
> If  /pgsql/data2 represents the Postgres 9.2 data directory then the data
> is not lost.
>
> I am including information from your previous post in the below.
>
> > $./initdb  -D /pgsql/9.3/main/data
>
> Are you overriding the default location that Debian uses?:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/PostgreSql
>
> I would look at the above to see how you can use the Debian tools to
> maintain/create multiple Postgres clusters.
>
>
> > 9.2 is uninstalled now.
>
> You will need to install it again to be able to access the data in the 9.2
> data directory you show above(/pgsql/data2). I would maintain that
> copy(/pgsql/data2) and just copy it into the 9.2 cluster when you get it
> reinstalled. If you want to upgrade to 9.3, then use the 9.3 pg_dumpall to
> dump the 9.2 data and then the 9.3 pg_restore to restore it into the 9.3
> instance.
>
>
>
>> Thanks.
>> BR,Ashish
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Adrian Klaver
> adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
>

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* Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue
  2017-05-13 13:11 PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 13:25 ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 13:41   ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 14:00     ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 14:58       ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 15:53         ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 16:44           ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
@ 2017-05-13 21:50             ` Steve Midgley <science@misuse.org>
  2017-05-13 22:26               ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread

From: Steve Midgley @ 2017-05-13 21:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>; +Cc: Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>; pgsql-sql

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
wrote:

> On 05/13/2017 08:53 AM, Ashish Tiwari wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrian,
>>
>> The data have kept separate as in
>>
>> /pgsql/data2 directory.
>>
>> We are passing this path while starting the server using pg-ctl from bin
>> directory as well this data path is given in to postgresql.conf .
>>
>> So in current situation the binary is as of 9.3 and data is as of 9.2
>>
>> As an alternative can we install the 9.2 and manually make the up DB is
>> it possible Or data is lost ?. finally
>>
>
> If  /pgsql/data2 represents the Postgres 9.2 data directory then the data
> is not lost.
>
> I am including information from your previous post in the below.
>
> > $./initdb  -D /pgsql/9.3/main/data
>
> Are you overriding the default location that Debian uses?:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/PostgreSql
>
> I would look at the above to see how you can use the Debian tools to
> maintain/create multiple Postgres clusters.
>
>
> > 9.2 is uninstalled now.
>
> You will need to install it again to be able to access the data in the 9.2
> data directory you show above(/pgsql/data2). I would maintain that
> copy(/pgsql/data2) and just copy it into the 9.2 cluster when you get it
> reinstalled. If you want to upgrade to 9.3, then use the 9.3 pg_dumpall to
> dump the 9.2 data and then the 9.3 pg_restore to restore it into the 9.3
> instance.
>
>
>
>> Thanks.
>> BR,Ashish
>>
>>
>
I am by no means an expert on any of this, but Adrian, I think you have a
typo in your instructions? Should it read:

 "use the *[9.2]* pg_dumpall to dump the 9.2 data and then the 9.3
pg_restore to restore it into the 9.3 instance." (in the original it said
[9.3] where my brackets are).

I think you meant to say that v 9.2 server binary should be used to call
pg_dumpall (and run against the v9.2 running server instance), and then the
resulting dump file can be read into the 9.3 server by using the v9.3
binary for pg_restore. The pg_restore (v9.3) command will operate using
source files created by pg_dumpall, and load that into 9.3 running server
instance.

If I'm wrong about this, please correct me. But given the context of
debugging on this email thread, it seemed like I should point this
(possible) typo out, so there was no ambiguity for Ashish and his team.

Steve

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* Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue
  2017-05-13 13:11 PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 13:25 ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 13:41   ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 14:00     ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 14:58       ` Re: [SQL] PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 15:53         ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>
  2017-05-13 16:44           ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
  2017-05-13 21:50             ` Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 DB initialization issue Steve Midgley <science@misuse.org>
@ 2017-05-13 22:26               ` Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
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From: Adrian Klaver @ 2017-05-13 22:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steve Midgley <science@misuse.org>; +Cc: Ashish Tiwari <tashish786@gmail.com>; pgsql-sql

On 05/13/2017 02:50 PM, Steve Midgley wrote:
> 
> 

> 
> I am by no means an expert on any of this, but Adrian, I think you have 
> a typo in your instructions? Should it read:
> 
>   "use the *[9.2]* pg_dumpall to dump the 9.2 data and then the 9.3 
> pg_restore to restore it into the 9.3 instance." (in the original it 
> said [9.3] where my brackets are).
> 
> I think you meant to say that v 9.2 server binary should be used to call 
> pg_dumpall (and run against the v9.2 running server instance), and then 
> the resulting dump file can be read into the 9.3 server by using the 
> v9.3 binary for pg_restore. The pg_restore (v9.3) command will operate 
> using source files created by pg_dumpall, and load that into 9.3 running 
> server instance.

Well pg_dump(all) is backwards compatible, so the 9.3 version can dump 
Postgres versions going back to 7.0. I have always been told that using 
the newer binary against an older server is better as it will 'know' 
about changes in the newer version:

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/static/upgrading.html

17.6.1. Upgrading Data via pg_dump

"It is recommended that you use the pg_dump and pg_dumpall programs from 
the newer version of PostgreSQL, to take advantage of enhancements that 
might have been made in these programs. Current releases of the dump 
programs can read data from any server version back to 7.0."

That being said, given that it is only a single version jump using the 
9.2 version of pg_dump(all) will most likely work without a hitch.

> 
> If I'm wrong about this, please correct me. But given the context of 
> debugging on this email thread, it seemed like I should point this 
> (possible) typo out, so there was no ambiguity for Ashish and his team.
> 
> Steve


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