Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4051337BF7 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:33:29 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44849-06 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:33:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 00:06:39.015636 by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail85.messagelabs.com (mail85.messagelabs.com [216.82.241.211]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726581337BC3 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:33:17 -0300 (ADT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: TGood@svwsjmc.org X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-85.messagelabs.com!1300379197!1430127!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.2.9; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [38.96.154.97] Received: (qmail 1137 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2011 16:26:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.svwsjmc.org) (38.96.154.97) by server-8.tower-85.messagelabs.com with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Mar 2011 16:26:37 -0000 Received: from SVWEMAIL.svwestj.local ([172.22.80.151]) by SVWEMAIL ([172.22.80.151]) with mapi; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:26:34 -0400 From: "Good, Thomas" To: "pgsql-sql@postgresql.org" Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:26:34 -0400 Subject: Bizarreness at A2 Hosting Thread-Topic: Bizarreness at A2 Hosting Thread-Index: AQHL5MAUuCMMwW1JR0WL52kEnqt3tg== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 tagged_above=-5 required=5 tests=BAYES_00=-1.9, FROM_DOMAIN_NOVOWEL=0.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201103/25 X-Sequence-Number: 35227 I realize this is not the right list for this question but I am just flabbe= rgasted, am only on one list, and, know Tom Lane is here so, please excuse.= .. Here is the deal: On a2 hosting I do the following: 1) create a new database in cpanel 2) login via psql 3) run \d=20 AND - there is ALREADY a table belonging to another user (not a privileged = user, another account owner) I can see this guy's schema but can't access the data. (I guess that's a po= sitive) I have repeated this three times so far...after I created a db, populated i= t and found a table that wasn't mine I created a test db that should have b= een empty. 4) try to run pg_dump - it fails as it is unable to lock this other guy's t= able tech suppt argues with me that their template is not hosed, "that is the na= ture of postgre," he said (not a typo, he omitted the trailing s) These guys are recommended by postgresql.org so I figured I'd try em... I have another account (for a client whom I support pro bono) and they do n= ot have this problem. New databases are empty as one would expect. Can someone tell me what exactly the problem is - I am waiting for a superv= isor to call me back and I'd like to lead him to the answer so he can fix t= he problem. thanks much -- Thomas A. Good, Senior Database Administrator Saint Vincent's Hospital Westchester A Division of Saint Joseph's Medical Center Residential Services 75 Vanderbilt Avenue, Room 5-47 Staten Island, NY 10304 718.818.5528=